Combo draw - how to play it
 

Villain is 32/20/1.5 over ~150 hands. Has been seen peeling a lot of flops in position and betting the turn. I've also played one big pot with him earlier this session.

I guess I played this one pretty weak. I was thinking I didn't have any fold equity on the turn and that my outs are pretty tricky. Also, at the time I felt I might be able to bluff if the QJ draw hit (dunno how realistic that is though).

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1802.36
UTG+1: $2751.91
HERO: $2322.00
Button: $2433.54
SB: $3775.29
BB: $2907.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $80</font>, UTG+1 calls, HERO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($270, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $170</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $340</font>, UTG+1 folds, HERO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($950, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $580</font>, HERO calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2110, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $802.36</font>, HERO folds.
Uncalled bets: $802.36 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $2110


He has like 2100-2200 behind after betting the turn. I would guess his range is something like T9/AJ/KJ/QQ(unlikely)/set/air, with Jx being his most likely hand IMO. What I'm really wondering about is - what's the strongest play here? Would I (would you) push the turn with an overpair here? Fwiw, he should be thinking I might be frustrated with him.

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
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Stack sizes:
HERO: $4694.00
CO: $4982.29
Button: $3071.50
SB: $3020.50
BB: $4331.82

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $80</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($180, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $140</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $316.08</font>, HERO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($812.16, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $532.28</font>, HERO ??

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

I call and hope he has a set and pay us off. I can`see you havinf FE here.
I pushed a hand like that 2 days ago, but i was OOP and Villain showed a set

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

Hand 1 is fine, Hand 2, meh I think a call is marginal at best. Flop call is bad i think.

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

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Hand 1 is fine, Hand 2, meh I think a call is marginal at best. Flop call is bad i think.

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Isn't a flop call pretty standard against an aggressive opponent? 170 more 150bb deep in position with a gutshot + backdoor flush draw...

A call on the turn marginal at best? I'm getting direct pot odds to draw to my 15 outs. The question is what's the best line on the turn - call or push.

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

I prefer calling even though a push sure is sexy and good for metagame if that how you use to play sets in spots like this and he might tilt a bit if he calls (prob with a big hand) and you draw out on him.

However, if you call and miss you might be able to steal the pot on the river a decent amount of the time since you have pretty much money left and position.

Also, all your outs (esp the straight-outs) are well disguised so he might fire again if you hit so calling seems superior.

If you where OOP and/or your outs was not that disguised my vote should much more likely be on the push.

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

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Hand 1 is fine, Hand 2, meh I think a call is marginal at best. Flop call is bad i think.

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Isn't a flop call pretty standard against an aggressive opponent? 170 more 150bb deep in position with a gutshot + backdoor flush draw...

A call on the turn marginal at best? I'm getting direct pot odds to draw to my 15 outs. The question is what's the best line on the turn - call or push.

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standard call on both flop and turn (and you definitely can't fold the turn).

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

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a push sure is sexy

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That's why the TPT love it so! ! ! !

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

flop is good

turn is a call. you can be realyl strong here for sure since the board is so dry (getting wetter on the turn, but pretty pedestrian). verty important to kno w how much he likes to play one pair hands fast oop, if h can have QJ here, etc, bc some guys can't obv.

i would call the turn, and shove almost all rivers when checked to

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

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flop is good

turn is a call. you can be realyl strong here for sure since the board is so dry (getting wetter on the turn, but pretty pedestrian). verty important to kno w how much he likes to play one pair hands fast oop, if h can have QJ here, etc, bc some guys can't obv.

i would call the turn, and shove almost all rivers when checked to

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I dunno if he can have QJ. I've only played with him for like an hour or so. From what I've seen, I would say he is the player who will mix it up with all different kinds of hands. Minraise top pair, cold call set on a drawy flop. Tricky. QJ/TJ possible, AJ/KJ very possible.

Re: Combo draw - how to play it
 

Most people seem to think a turn call is in order. So... here we are. Call/fold/raise?

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($812.16, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $532.28</font>, HERO calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1876.72, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $469.18</font>, HERO ??