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aker89 09-11-2007 05:41 AM

50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
First of all, I am not a very experienced player, but just want some feedback on this hand.

I just sat down at the table, so I dont have any reads. Although, I have noticed Poly_Baller as a quite loose player during the first hands.

What do I do on the river here?



SB: $53.65
BB: $50.00
UTG: $52.80
Hero (MP): $34.30
CO: $44.90
BTN: $110.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $6.50</font>, Hero calls $6.50, 2 folds, BB calls $6.50

River: ($29.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $20.50</font>, Hero ???

mr_npiv 09-11-2007 05:44 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Please try to use Lego poker hand converter

http://www.legopoker.com/hh/

Its more handy, and seems to be the standard

Kasane 09-11-2007 05:49 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Yes, use converter. And don't show results -- stab off the action right where your major decision lies. In this case, your turn action.

aker89 09-11-2007 06:02 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Ok, I changed to the legopoker converter now.

frostbrn 09-11-2007 06:09 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Just get it all in on the turn, You are most likely ahead then. Flat calling there with players to act behind you is the worst thing you can do there. As it stands, it looks a lot like he has AQ, but I think you still have to call there as AK is also very likely here.

ama0330 09-11-2007 06:53 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Fold preflop, and as played I think I shove the turn and commit his worse ace. His river line looks a lot like AQ..

DaN_05 09-11-2007 06:55 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
PF is a pretty poor call. A8s doesn't do well at all vs an UTG raise and with 4 guys to act behind you. I'd defiantely fold upto AJ in this instance.

But the turn is great for you, put it all in and stack his AK or whatever he has woke up with.

Sharagoz 09-11-2007 07:16 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Yes, fold pre-flop. A8s doesnt do well in raised pots (unless you raised with it from late pos).
Raise turn and get action from AK/AQ or whatever ace he has.

As played I'd call river. Its hard to fold here against an unknown NL50 player because they are fully capable of playing AK/AJ like this.

aker89 09-11-2007 07:28 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
Yeah, even I know that was poor PF call. I was a bit on tilt, but when turned the two pair, I thought I was in front (which I was). I played it bad, and he of course had KJ.

Nogatsira 09-11-2007 07:32 AM

Re: 50NL 6max - decision on river after making two pair on turn
 
You shouldnt call preflop. A suited ace is nice in a multiway pot but you don't want to play it against an UTG raiser. It's better to call with SCs then with a suited ace because you basically call to hit your flush and only that.
I reraise on the turn, it seems like somewhere in the range of AJ+ but he might aswell be playing KhQh so you want to let him pay.
The river is probably a call as played but it might be AQ here.

In general, don't play suited aces against raises in bad position and play more agressively


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