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raise4value 09-10-2007 09:14 PM

3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
UTG was a TAG, rest were retard LAGs
can i call the turn with UTG behind me? He could easily have an Ace or something like KK or QQ.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls $2 (All-In), Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (11.83 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG folds.

River: (12.83 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 11.33 BB

MartynasD 09-10-2007 09:22 PM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
looks ok to me.u caped PF,but ace flops and u nothing can do with 4 oponents

TheHip41 09-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
with the all in guy, I just bet/fold the turn like it's my job. this is a pretty crappy spot though.

Noir_Desir 09-11-2007 06:23 AM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
What does the flop bet achieve here? Can't we just check/call one for our 2 outs and c/f the turn?

pirlouit 09-11-2007 06:38 AM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
Most of time, in this ki,nd of spots if you choose to make your continuation bet, I think you should bet/fold the turn.

However in this case you get called by 2 opponents on a ace-high board with no real draw... =&gt; 99% of time they've got an ace.
And I don't think we can make an ace fold here.

check/fold turn.

whereabout 09-11-2007 07:06 AM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
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What does the flop bet achieve here?

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I ask myself the same question here. I think betting the flop here with a plan og c/f turn is an bad ide. Having said that, it seems like all plays in these kind of situations looks bad.

hustalasta 09-11-2007 02:25 PM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
Isn't this a spot where just calling preflop might be better than capping? If UTG caps we learn more about their hand and are in a pretty good spot to jam when a safe flop hits. Either way we have a ton of overcards to dodge.

raise4value 09-11-2007 03:02 PM

Re: 3/6 JJ in a 5-way pot with ace on flop
 
UTGs raising range J10s+,66+,KJo+, MPs 3-betting range anytwo since he is almost broke and declared he will spew his last chips in, well and the coldcalling droolers, who knows. My point is i have most likely the best hand here and therefore cap it to push my edge. i think the only place where i am lost in this hand is the turn.


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