Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

I am making the switch from full ring to short-handed, and I am having trouble finding valuebets on the river. Here is an example.

Pokerroom .5/1 (5 handed)
Villain is 50.5/13/3.6 over 100 hands
Hero is on the Button with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Pre-Flop
2 folds, Hero Raises, SB folds, BB calls

Flop (4.5 sb) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero Bets, BB raises, Hero calls

Turn (4 bb): T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

River (8 bb): 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero?

Your Thoughts?

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

I'm checking here and hoping that we were being called down by a jack, flush draw, or oesd

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

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I'm checking here and hoping that we were being called down by a jack, flush draw, or oesd

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I agree. Kicker doesn't even play. Can your kicker ever play when your 2p gets counterfeit?

Krishan

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

I'm betting here and hoping that he has a jack, ten, or pocket pair smaller than tens. (Or that he feels like calling with a busted draw.)

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

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I'm checking here and hoping that we were being called down by a jack, flush draw, or oesd

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I agree. Kicker doesn't even play. Can your kicker ever play when your 2p gets counterfeit?

Krishan

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I don't get what you're saying? We're still beating all other jacks besides JJ, QJ, or J6.

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I'm betting here and hoping that he has a jack, ten, or pocket pair smaller than tens. (Or that he feels like calling with a busted draw.)

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why? If he was calling us down with TP, we are now beat, if he was calling us down with bottom pair, we're gonna get CRed. He won't call with a busted draw. THere is no value in betting this river

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

No, now we are splitting with any other jack that doesn't beat us. (JJ66Q)

Oh nevermind, I am idiot

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No, now we are splitting with any other jack that doesn't beat us. (JJ66Q)

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no
board is 6QJT6

we have JT and (JJTTQ)
if villain has J2 he has (JJ66Q)

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I'm checking here and hoping that we were being called down by a jack, flush draw, or oesd

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I agree. Kicker doesn't even play. Can your kicker ever play when your 2p gets counterfeit?

Krishan

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I don't get what you're saying? We're still beating all other jacks besides JJ, QJ, or J6.

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Heh. I think it's close now that my hand reading skills have come back to me. I think a Q is pretty likely. Will he have a J more than half as often as he has a Q? Considering we have a J I think it's close but no.

Krishan

Re: Two Pair corrupted, valuebet anyway?
 

As long as he usually c/r flops in blind defense, I think a 50.5/13/3.6 is usually c/ring a lot of stuff, and all sorts of LAGs go to showdown with junk.

I don't think you're missing a lot of value checking here, and it's a must check versus sensible opponents.