Ruling on minimum bet
 

NLHE 3 table home tourney
Blinds are 500/1000

3 players in the hand. BB is first to act and goes all in after the flop for 200. Can the next person to act call the 200 or must he limp in for 1000 since there is another player to act behind him?

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He can just call the 200.

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but there's someone behind to act. The minimum bet is 1000. There could potentially be a side pot if the 3rd person calls. 600 in the main pot and 1600 in the side pot. This was basically the arguement we had. If it was heads up I understand calling the 200 but not if it's a multiway pot.

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but there's someone behind to act. The minimum bet is 1000. There could potentially be a side pot if the 3rd person calls. 600 in the main pot and 1600 in the side pot. This was basically the arguement we had. If it was heads up I understand calling the 200 but not if it's a multiway pot.

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Well, try to understand it anyway- if an all-in is the first bet, that's what has to be called regardless of the bet minimum.

If you are behind the all-in player, you can call the $200, complete to $1000 (some places will allow/require you to do a full min raise, to $1200) or raise more than the minimum.

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the next person can't just call the 200 he has to put in 1000.

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the next person can't just call the 200 he has to put in 1000.

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Okay but you are wrong, so...

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the next person can't just call the 200 he has to put in 1000.

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wrong

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This always causes so much confusion. There's a very simple way to think about it.

Anything less than a minimum bet is a call. While some people may need to add a bit to their bet to match this less-than-minimum addition, their other actions are limited to those that correspond with a call.

In this case, a call is a check, since the person is calling a bet of zero. While others may have to put in a little more (200) to continue, they still act as if the less-than-minimum wasn't even there. So the next person can simply "check" after matching the 200.

Got it? Good.

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Another vote (and a correct one) for just being able to call the bet... A player can *always* just call -- and in this case the call is 200, as that is what the bet is because the first player only has that much.

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For anyone still confused about this:

NLHE 3 table home tourney
Blinds are 500/1000

3 players in the hand on the turn. BB bets T1200, UTG calls. Button now moves in for T1400 total ("raising" his last T200).


What does BB have to call? What about UTG, assuming BB just calls?


Now, look at your answer here and go back to the OP, and see if you would change anything.


(and before anyone asks- no, cash ring game vs. tourney doesn't make any difference, when a table stakes rule is in place)