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runhot 09-09-2007 05:08 PM

27 overpair w/ 88
 
range for mp3 is a naked ace, a pair with an ace, any two broadway cards, flush draw.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1440)
Hero (t1490)
MP3 (t1440)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1400)
SB (t1560)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t1270)
UTG+1 (t1950)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t60, MP3 calls t60, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t210) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t160</font>, MP3 calls t160, UTG folds.

Turn: (t530) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: (t530) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t200</font>, Hero ????

skates 09-09-2007 08:37 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
I'm betting 1/2 pot on the turn here. As played, fold river. You bet 160 into a 190 pot and got called. The only hands I think you're beating here are A5, 66, 77, which he'd probably check behind since he's certainly not getting value out of hands that are losing to it and not pushing off any ten or two-pair. AT is too likely (calls flop with 2 overs + gutshot).

rakes.a.beach 09-09-2007 08:55 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
call.

Little John 09-09-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
call the river.

SNG-Player 09-09-2007 09:39 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
Is very wrong fold this preflop?

allaboutheu 09-09-2007 09:44 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
No, I don't think that it's wrong to fold preflop, but you are getting implied odds to hit a set here so I don't think its wrong either way.

I bet just over 1/2 pot on turn also, but as played I probably call the river bet. Do you think he floated you on the turn with 2 overs like a10 or k10? The only hand I think he bets with there that he's beating you with is a turned set.

Fuxl 09-09-2007 09:56 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
Cant understand the line.
Why check turn
I prefer massive overbetting flop.

SNG-Player 09-09-2007 10:02 PM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
I like the fold PF. Fold this medium PP early and get away of hard decisions with no reads.

And I dont like to play this kind of hand only for set value... Is this a -EV play?

runhot 09-10-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
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call the river.

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i did in fact call and was shown Qh9h. which i knew was a possibility. but i checked the turn knowing that if he checked behind i would call a small bet on the river. is this generally an ok line here?

Pudge714 09-10-2007 02:35 AM

Re: 27 overpair w/ 88
 
Bet the turn. You rarely get shoved on if you do, I dunno probably close your eyes and call. As played call river you don't need to be ahead very often.


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