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ktec 09-09-2007 04:23 PM

NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
No history with villain (seems to be tagish). I dont really know what to think of this hand. Is it an easy fold without any history?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $203.00
BB: $200.00
UTG: $200.00
MP: $118.89
CO: $76.90
BTN: $405.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $17.00

Flop: ($50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $44.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $381.60</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $475.60

Etats360 09-09-2007 04:33 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
board is too trawy for me to fold here getting over 2-1.
Does anyone know how to copy/paste from pokerstove results?

Nick Royale 09-09-2007 04:35 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
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Nick Royale 09-09-2007 04:38 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
Call. Your flop bet is too big.

Etats360 09-09-2007 04:43 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
Against, a very,very tight range you're getting just under the right price to call. If you think he can push wider, this is an instacall.

Board: Ts 2c 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.362% 29.84% 01.52% 9454 481.50 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 68.638% 67.12% 01.52% 21263 481.50 { 99+, 22, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, KcQc }

Montezuma21 09-09-2007 04:46 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
GRUNCH:
I like. I don't think JJ is pushing this flop very often. this is usually AA/KK, set or some combo draw type hand-NFD, OESD+FD. won't pokerstove it, but i think your equity is low enough to fold. also, bet less on flop.

Etats360 09-09-2007 04:48 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
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Montezuma21 09-09-2007 05:21 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
so i stoved it:

FWIW Etats, i think a "very very tight range might look a lot closer to this:

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25,740 games 0.005 secs 5,148,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 2c 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.369% 29.53% 01.84% 7602 472.50 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 68.631% 66.79% 01.84% 17193 472.50 { 99+, AcKc }



adding or removing big combo draws doesn't really make much of a difference in terms of equity. if OP thinks there's even a small chance that villain might go crazy with AT or QJo here then it becomes a clear call. In these cases where our EV for calling is so close to 0 i tend to err on the side of being a calling station because i think it's good for your image. i hope others disagree.

HoldEmNewby 09-09-2007 05:59 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
i think call is good

cbboy 09-09-2007 06:26 PM

Re: NL200: QQ vs weird flop allin
 
Less on flop. Call push.


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