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oakrdrzfan 09-08-2007 08:13 AM

NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
Is checking this flop w/ QQ Ovr Pr too nitty. I just figured it hits some people on the head. As it was, the Super Agg player bet it out and the others fold. Now what on the turn.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $9.50
BB: $148.03
UTG: $51.15
Hero (UTG+1): $52.51
MP1: $10.00
MP2: $72.25
MP3: $83.55
CO: $15.19
BTN: $53.82

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 62/10/4 over about 75 Hands.
I was running about 16/10</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($8.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $6.50</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: ($21.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $16.00</font>,Hero ????

justscott 09-08-2007 09:11 AM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
If he is aggro as you say and you checked to him of course hes gonna bet.

warrantofice 09-08-2007 10:14 AM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
I think your decision really needs to be made on the flop here. You have a bunch of people seeing this flop that has plenty of draws, because this guy is aggro than I might decided to Check raise in this position, you can't check call cause you'll have no idea were you are and there are to many cards that can come which will be scary. If he bets out 6.5 than i would likely make it 22 more and your kinda committed to calling his all-in if he pushes, you still have a 10 out for a tie/win and a possible Q if he's got a set/two pair.

You could also lead bet this flop for say, $10 (a slight over bet) and make your decision on depending on what the other people do.

If you go for the check raise your committing yourself to the pot/river so you must be aware of that. With the lead bet you can still get away from the hand, but your going to have to make your decision on the flop/turn (if you think he's on a draw)

Chargers In 07 09-08-2007 04:39 PM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
I think once he bets and clears out the field you should c/r him. He can be betting any pair or a ten. You are way ahead of his range and I'd be happy to get AI here.

allinonadraw 09-08-2007 05:05 PM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
Against a 62/10, I'm getting it all-in on the flop every time in this situation. Your overpair does very well against his range, even with a flop this coordinated. As played, I'm pushing on the turn.

Specialwon 09-08-2007 09:35 PM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
I'm not a great fan of the flop check but as played, I don't like waiting. Tell him the bad news right there on the flop with a big checkraise. I say save the c/call for sets and other monsters.

I'mVeryBusy 09-08-2007 09:50 PM

Re: NL50: QQ again. Too Nitty??
 
I am not a fan of the c/r at all. should be less than 1% of your options. Bet this on the flop and hope to get this goon all in by the river.


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