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ahnuld 09-07-2007 01:02 PM

oh so drawy
 
Villan is 21/19, pretty aggro. I feel like this is a fold or push spot with all the draws, probably colser to a fold than a push. Whats up?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($1471.75)
SB ($1242.25)
BB ($1577.75)
Hero ($1235)
MP ($995)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], 9[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]].
[color=Red]Hero raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, [color=Gray]3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($85) 9[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 7[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets $65</font>, [color=Red]MP raises to $200</font>

Zeestein 09-07-2007 01:05 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
I think what most people do with this depends on how they're running

I fold like a pansy though

Teh1337zor 09-07-2007 01:05 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
i think this is a standard fold

jlocdog 09-07-2007 01:11 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
If you are never calling with a straight then you need to fold.

Drag007 09-07-2007 01:19 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
you only have a hundred bucks in the pot, just fold, either you're crushed or your flipping a coin a lot, and there's a lot of hands you have like no FE against

ahnuld 09-07-2007 02:51 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
dont think it matters how much I have in the pot. Matters what my equity is

ZJ123 09-07-2007 02:53 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
ez fold

Ship Ship McGipp 09-07-2007 03:09 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
what's interesting is that i would always shove 78 here without thinking much about it (though it's not that clear cut, i just don't fold two pair) and i woudl usually-ish fold A9 here.

they're so close in value with villian's range, i'm surprised i'm not more murky on both of them.

the only real difference is elimination cards, which i guess is somewhat/fairly crucial

ahnuld 09-07-2007 03:14 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
[ QUOTE ]
what's interesting is that i would always shove 78 here without thinking much about it (though it's not that clear cut, i just don't fold two pair) and i woudl usually-ish fold A9 here.

they're so close in value with villian's range, i'm surprised i'm not more murky on both of them.

the only real difference is elimination cards, which i guess is somewhat/fairly crucial

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah but doesnt 78 fair worse against somethink like 9T than A9? Need to plug in some ranges..

ahnuld 09-07-2007 03:16 PM

Re: oh so drawy
 
yeah its what I thought. A9 is 58% equity against 9T whereas 7s8s is 51% equity.


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