1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

I just want to see everyone's opinions on this hand...

Orig Raiser: 50/22/8
Other relevant guy: 14/9/4.5

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $296.70
BB: $46.80
UTG: $124.65
UTG+1: $210.05
MP1: $204.00
MP2: $197.00
MP3: $327.50
Hero (CO): $251.45
BTN: $214.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6.00</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $6.00, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $6.00, Hero calls $6.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($27) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $118.65</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $187.30</font>, Hero???

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

Let's pretend MP3 shoved his stack since that's essentially what he's done. You need 30.8% equity in the pot to call. Against a range of 88/66/22/Ad2d/9d7d/7d5d you have only 25.9% equity. Seems like a clear fold. Not even sure his range is this wide since he's a 14%vpip player and not even close to closing the action. Adding in AdKd you have 30.29 equity making it close to a call. Getting rid of 7d5d/9d7d you only have 25.2% equity.

edit: only did a HU thing. I'm way off since it's 3-ways with a side pot.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

I'd fold here. You really don't beat anything MP3 ever has and are probably a little ahead of UTG, but not much.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

Too much discussion here guys..

Anyways,

MP3 doesn't ever push with draws? Look at his AF, he has to push draws sometimes. Also, he doesn't ever push with an overpair trying to isolate the idiot?

The second part is unlikely but I def disagree that I don't beat anything he ever has.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

Meh, I call.

If you and MP3 were deeper (like $350) I'd fold pretty quickly.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

This is a set or a combo draw almost all of the time. MP3 is doubtful to have an overpair he'd four bet here, given the flat call preflop. Fold.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

I think its a read thing. If you think MP will make this play with some worse hands it probably is ok to call. Generally action from two others is going to mean one of them has a bigger hand though.

This may have been a good spot for a 3-bet preflop.

Re: 1/2, 68s marginal spot
 

Really? Yes, you may be beat, but this is often FD vs. overpair. The ranges discussed are just too narrow. You're getting 3:1 on your money. High variance but +EV IMHO. Arrrrrrrrrrr-in.