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RyanCIA 09-05-2007 05:36 PM

NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $89.50
BB (Villian): $138.30
UTG: $57.40
UTG+1: $101.35
Hero (MP1): $80.65
MP2: $139.05
MP3: $57.50
CO: $98.25
BTN: $38.90

Villian is 21/10/2.75 over 100 hands

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, 5 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $15.50</font>, Hero calls $10.50

Flop: ($31.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $11.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $11.00 returned to BB

Pot Size: $31.50 ($1.55 Rake)

warrantofice 09-05-2007 05:43 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
I think your in a position to bluff on this hand. I would give villian jj-aa but since the ace flopped he'd be hating most of his high pockets right now. I think a bet of around 30 - 40 dollars here should take the pot down for you. You should plan on shutting down completely if he calls your bluff plus you have the off chance of hitting the runner runner second nut flush.

warrantofice 09-05-2007 05:47 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
Well actually after noting your stack size (you should always rebuy) a bluff would probably be all-in ($65)...now i think we kinda run into a problem, cause you'll be over betting the pot you are going to need to win this alot of the time. If you had a full stack you could bluff and if you thought you would definetly push him off a KK than it might be okay. Hard spot but because your not big stacked i vote fold, or all-in if your really feel crazy but probably -ev play though.

CLB 09-05-2007 05:54 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
Unless you've got some evidence that villain 3bets lighter than most 100NL players then I think this is a fold.

I usually assume a 100NL players 3bet range is pretty tight (JJ+, AQ+) until they show me otherwise, and I think the already tight range I give them is heavily weighted towards the KK/AA/AK portion of that range. You're just not beating much once this flop hits and you the effective stack sizes don't allow you to make much of a play.

His super weak flop bet could (but doesn't necessarily) imply a wk hand - JJ or KK? - but any meaningful raise commits you and I still think you're behind a lot more than you're ahead. Maybe call and reevaluate the turn?

I don't think you got a better option than fold. Fold &gt; Call &gt; Raise.

seki 09-05-2007 06:05 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
What CLB said

ship_it_trebek 09-05-2007 06:40 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
Everyone is citing stack size as the reason for a fold, but honestly if you are 100BB deep here, does it make any difference? You are committing your stack anyway with any raise on the flop. Hero has already put in 15 preflop, and a standard raise on the flop would effectively commit over half his stack into the pot. I don't think you can cite the fact that were 80BB deep instead of 100BB as the reason not to raise here.

crunny 09-05-2007 07:09 PM

Re: NL 100 QQ BB Reraised Preflop
 
I think folding is fine against a complete unknown


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