.5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks?

Final Pot: 4.25 BB

CO's first hand at the table.

If CO bet the turn I would have called planning to C/C any river.

Does anybody bet the turn or once that gets checked through the river?

Re: .5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

I would B/F the turn - Tens might fold

and C/C river - a turn call means that villain is either on a draw or looking to SD. Missed draws won't call, but a hand like 34[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s or 45[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s may take a stab at the pot. My guess is that Tens don't always bet either.

Re: .5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

Raising pf probably makes sense with all this posting going on.

I'd bet/fold the turn and then bet/fold the river. Villain could be a call down any pp type or a call any flop type. I wouldn't assume I'm behind until he tells me so.

Re: .5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

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I'd bet/fold the turn and then bet/fold the river.

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PFR is great. Flop bet is standard. Bet the turn, his range is still almost any 2 and that's the best turn card outside of a 7. As played, I think I c/c though b/f is close.

Re: .5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

I wouldn't raise UTG with 77. As played, I think I would fire the second bullet on the turn (and fold to a raise). Just checking screams that you don't have the ace, and encourages villain to take shots at you.

As played on the river, I'd bet/fold here, too. Villain's not showing any strength, so your 7s could still be good.

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I wouldn't raise UTG with 77.

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With no posters it ranges from marginally incorrect to a good play. With two posters it's mandatory if you have any fold equity at all, and ok even if you don't.

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With no posters it ranges from marginally incorrect to a good play. With two posters it's mandatory if you have any fold equity at all, and ok even if you don't.

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Thanks, Xhad! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] That helps.

What other sorts of hands would you be making this move with? Are pocket pairs lower than sevens good? Unconnected but suited broadways (i.e., KTs)?

Re: .5/1 77 on ATx Flop Bet the Turn or River?
 

UTG your opponents usually have to be loose and awful to raise worse than 77. With the posters they can also be tight and fold too much, the dead money more than makes up for slamming into an occasional monster. Similar for JTs and QTs in this spot. In the OP hand, the only broadway hands I would even consider folding are KTo-JTo and QJo, and even that might be a little tight (but I do hate playing these hands OOP unless I'm sure I know what I'm doing). I'd also play any Axs here figuring either I'll get shorthanded and can play for pair value or I'll get flush odds. Always raising down to A7s, A6s-A2s game dependent. I'd also definitely play T9s and J9s and again possibly a few worse depending on the game.

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If CO bet the turn I would have called planning to C/C any river.

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bet/fold and check-call any non KQJ or club river, rather than this.