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this is just the 3rd hand we have played so no reads, should i just fold the flop and if not do i give up on the turn if he calls my flop bet?

PokerStars Game #11837373328: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/09/02 - 20:39:13 (ET)
Table 'Lamberta II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: burns1986 ($69.45 in chips)
Seat 4: JCredible02 ($25.85 in chips)
burns1986: posts small blind $0.10
JCredible02: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to burns1986 [5d Ac 7d Ah]
burns1986: raises $0.50 to $0.75
JCredible02: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 4h]
JCredible02: bets $1.25
burns1986: raises $3.95 to $5.20
JCredible02: calls $3.95
*** TURN *** [8h 3h 4h] [2d]
JCredible02: checks
burns1986: bets $11.35
JCredible02: raises $8.55 to $19.90 and is all-in
burns1986: folds
JCredible02 collected $33.60 from pot
JCredible02: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34.60 | Rake $1
Board [8h 3h 4h 2d]
Seat 3: burns1986 (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: JCredible02 (big blind) collected ($33.60)

yea that is a nacked ace bluff and it wont work at PLO25 there too many will call down with third flush

I don't mind the flopraise that much, but I'd give up when called. As axel stated, most players there don't fold sets or medium flushes.
Handconverter would be nice: http://www.deucescracked.com/Hand-Converter

I've stopped (almost[img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]) using the naked A bluff unless I know "who" my opponent is, and have a reason to believe my fold equity is good to make it profitable..
besides, the pot is tiny.. and there is no point in getting your feet wet.. save this play for the big pots vs opponents you have reads on..

definitely shut it down on turn. I am not a big favorite of raising flop because i dont think you would raise with nut flush on this flop.

i think it's more credible in a .50 game to call flop and raise turn if you're going to naked ace bluff at all. also if the board pairs opp will usually check-fold a medium flush assuming you either had a higher flush already or hit your full house.

i will find my HH to see what it was.......but i'm pretty sure its the second nuts

PokerStars Game #11837373328: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/09/02 - 20:39:13 (ET)
Table 'Lamberta II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: burns1986 ($69.45 in chips)
Seat 4: JCredible02 ($25.85 in chips)
burns1986: posts small blind $0.10
JCredible02: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JCredible02 [5h 2c 6c Jc]
burns1986: raises $0.50 to $0.75
JCredible02: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 4h]
JCredible02: bets $1.25
burns1986: raises $3.95 to $5.20
JCredible02: calls $3.95
*** TURN *** [8h 3h 4h] [2d]
JCredible02: checks
burns1986: bets $11.35
JCredible02: raises $8.55 to $19.90 and is all-in
burns1986: folds
JCredible02 collected $33.60 from pot
JCredible02: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34.60 | Rake $1
Board [8h 3h 4h 2d]
Seat 3: burns1986 (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: JCredible02 (big blind) collected ($33.60)

talk about a great preflop call.... I must have been on Ultra Super Tilt that day.... sorry [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
(also that converter is crap)

dont raise this preflop when your going to be out of position like this. Your aces arent suited and your other hands are marginally connected. I like a limp here.

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dont raise this preflop when your going to be out of position like this. Your aces arent suited and your other hands are marginally connected. I like a limp here.

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I've never heard you actually claim to be a winning player.... stop posting please.