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09-02-2007 10:54 AM

A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
villain is 37/3/1.7. I`m 16/11/4. Is this a good spot to get it in vs this type of player ? against a thinking player this is Standart IMO.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($59)</font>
UTG ($6.95)
MP ($75.65)
Button ($43.80)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($43.30)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $58.5</font>, SB calls $37.80 (All-In).

Turn: ($87.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($87.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $87.10

09-02-2007 10:59 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.789% 55.33% 00.45% 32321 265.50 { 99-88, 44, A8s, Td9d, 85s-84s, 76s, 54s, A8o, 85o-84o, 76o, 54o }
Hand 1: 44.211% 43.76% 00.45% 25558 265.50 { Ad5d }

corsakh 09-02-2007 11:04 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
Your 3bet is ugly. Make it 17 or just call. Chances are he is not folding an over ever so just call.

Peter Harris 09-02-2007 11:20 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
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Your 3bet is ugly. Make it 17 or just call. Chances are he is not folding an over ever so just call.

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Sb could be c/r as little as TP there, and villain may fold if the diamond comes, so the overpush isn't heinous, just variancey imo.

That said I think with a hand as powerful as yours you don't hurt much any way. I would personally 3b a more sensible amount like $18-20 and call an overpush. You have position so putting the last raise in on this may get you a check on a blank turn.

Dumle 09-02-2007 11:22 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
[ QUOTE ]

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.789% 55.33% 00.45% 32321 265.50 { 99-88, 44, A8s, Td9d, 85s-84s, 76s, 54s, A8o, 85o-84o, 76o, 54o }
Hand 1: 44.211% 43.76% 00.45% 25558 265.50 { Ad5d }

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This is just a weird range IMO. You haven't included 55, A8 will probably not call an all-in. I also think you should include some more overpairs, since he's passive preflop and may just call, as a slowplay or because that's what he does, TT-AA preflop. Also, why is Td9d included, but not any other suited connectors? It just doesn't make sense.

Dumle

Dumle 09-02-2007 11:25 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
And as for the hand. This overbet all-in is probably not a good idea. I don't think you have enough equity or FE to make. Had the pot been bigger and it would have been closer to pot-size I would have liked it. I do like a reraise, though. Partly because you have some FE and partly because you can probably get a free card on turn if he calls.

Dumle

meccaNES 09-02-2007 11:25 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
The biggest thing about combo draws...is Fold Equity.

I don't want to take a bunch of +3% equity flips for my stack.

I play them aggressively still but i don't try to stack off against weak/station type opponents. Generally implied odds here are pretty big against these types so i may just elect to call most bets being as i'm currently about even money and can probably get a free card on the turn.

Dumle beat me to it...:(

09-02-2007 11:36 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
If I raise to 15$ or so, I`m pretty sure he will call, so I thought I push not to loose lot of FE if my hand doesn`t improve. I hate going to showdown unimproved and getting beat by K8. Not sure tho, I don`t want to be result oriented here.

Oops, just noted that I posted turn and river card. Sry

meccaNES 09-02-2007 11:45 AM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
So don't put in another raise.

He's passive...call and take a turn card. You'll still have a ton of equity in the hand even if he bets say $8 into the $11 pot.

If he's a big enough calling station the implied odds will still get you paid off.

I'd rather just not risk my stack vs someone who's passive when i have a chance to make the nuts AND still get paid off.

Kasane 09-02-2007 02:25 PM

Re: A5s hits combo draw vs. 37/3/1.7 - get it all in ?
 
I love the reraise, but you get -- in my opinion -- another couple FE percentage points out of reraising a good amount instead of pushing. Pushing makes it appear as if you want a fold, which you do, rather than simply a good hand. would you push a set? If you would, go ahead and push. If not, rr to like 20, making it clear it's for stacks.

It's not a lot, but it's worth it for the times villain wants to make a hero call with 99 or whatever -- don't give him the info that will let him do that.


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