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DemonSon 09-01-2007 02:02 PM

KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
I'm a limit player trying to make the transition to no-limit, and as expected, it has been expensive. I've been getting crushed in big pots, and hoping to get some advice.

This hand was played live, at a card club. Villain is an action player, plays a lot of hands. He is pretty loose passive preflop, more aggressive postflop, he makes some very marginal calls, and he bluffs more then he should.

$1-$2 No Limit
Stacks:
SB- $250 (Villain)
UTG- $120~
UTG +1- $200~
LMP- $320 (Hero)

Hero is dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in LMP
UTG raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $32, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG +1 calls.

Pot: $130
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets $30, folded to hero, Hero moves all-in (villain had $187 left, I had him covered)

Any criticism is much appreciated.
The only hands I'm afraid of here are AA and QT. I felt very strongly that villain would def. slowplay the nuts, and that he would have made a big re-raise preflop with AA.

dragonystic 09-01-2007 02:05 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
you'll come out way ahead if you are always getting your money in on this flop. if you're up against 1 of 2 hands that beat you, not much you can do.

terp 09-01-2007 02:11 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
this is definitely the easiest way to play the hand and certainly not incorrect, but it may be suboptimal

prunch 09-01-2007 02:18 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
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this is definitely the easiest way to play the hand and certainly not incorrect, but it may be suboptimal

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any ideas on what 'optimal' would be???

Nielsio 09-01-2007 02:20 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
Try to not run into AA next time.

Another dumb thread.

DemonSon 09-01-2007 02:36 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
Thanks for the feedback. I'd love to know what you guys think would be optimal. How's the preflop raise size?

I did not run into aces, but thanks so much for your constructive criticism Nielsio.

mackthefork 09-01-2007 02:49 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the feedback. I'd love to know what you guys think would be optimal. How's the preflop raise size?

I did not run into aces, but thanks so much for your constructive criticism Nielsio.

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I can't think of a better way to play, than pushing the 150 you have left, when there is 120+ in the pot and you have 2nd set, top set being AA and you put in the last raise preflop, if he had QT reload, so what he put in enough preflop for you to play like that all day, no worries.

Mack

ajmargarine 09-01-2007 03:06 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
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The only hands I'm afraid of here are AA and QT.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

AggJedi 09-01-2007 04:41 PM

Re: KK- flopped set, deep (for me anyway)
 
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I felt very strongly that villain would def. slowplay the nuts, and that he would have made a big re-raise preflop with AA.

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You defined him as a loose passive player preflop, and more aggressive post flop. Reraising big preflop with AA and slow playing the nuts on the flop certainly does not fit the characteristics of the player you described.


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