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shat4brains 08-30-2007 10:18 PM

J8 call down
 
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

no read new to table is calling down in situations lke this really bad? i think i played this pretty bad but i dont know what i shouldve done differently.

guenttrs 08-31-2007 09:22 AM

Re: J8 call down
 
I would lead the flop. No one has shown any aggresion why do you try to trap them? The c/r blows up the pot, you hold a marginal hand OOP. I dont like it.

The rivercard is scary would you have called another bet?

sharpie 08-31-2007 09:29 AM

Re: J8 call down
 
I would lead the flop. I don't think we have enough of a hand to put in 2 more bets from the turn, and we don't have enough outs, so to call we have to hope he has a worse hand and checks behind the river a small portion of the time. I don't think this is worth it, sometimes he'll have you reverse dominated, and I think someone who 3 bets the flop with a draw is gonna bluff the river so we often can't win that way.

Oink 08-31-2007 09:42 AM

Re: J8 call down
 
This hand is massively overplayed IMO. I see no reason to c/r the field on the flop with 2nd pair bad kicker. Playing this aggro in tiny pots is a serious leak IMO.

Turn is a c/f.

River is definetely a c/f.


I would either bet out on the flop or try and c/r if the villain in position will bet if checked to. If I try to check/raise I would just c/c when the guy in the middle bets and gets 1 caller.


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