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wingchunflush 08-30-2007 06:30 PM

2nl is this spew or ok?
 
hand pretty much explains itself
Should i be leading out here? How about a c/r line any ideas?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($1.63)
Button ($4.92)
SB ($3.41)
Hero ($2)
UTG ($8.34)
MP ($2.56)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.08, MP calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.31) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $0.1</font>, Hero calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10.

Turn: ($0.61) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.5</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.8</font>, MP calls $1.30, CO calls $0.01 (All-In).

River: ($5.64) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $5.64

Claunchy 08-30-2007 07:28 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
Much better to get money in on the flop than to wait for the turn. I'd bet/3-bet the flop.

Lego05 08-30-2007 07:34 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
Numbers/reads on villian? I'm very likely reraising pre-flop and if I'm not I'm probably folding.

As played I'd just check/call turn. CRAI I think would be better than what you did although at this level it's still bad cause from what I've heard people won't fold.

At a higher level against a good player and especially against a 2+2'er a turn CRAI could be a good move.

Lego05 08-30-2007 07:36 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
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Much better to get money in on the flop than to wait for the turn. I'd bet/3-bet the flop.

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You think if we lead flop villian will raise with a T or worse? Cause villian is like never folding JJ+ and hero's a dog against that range.

I'd like trying to get it in on the flop with AQd so much better and obviously with AKd.

jmgambler 08-30-2007 07:36 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
I dont get the leading out the turn? (Yes, I see the additional outs)

But do this is on the Flop or C/R the flop

wingchunflush 08-30-2007 07:40 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
why am I 3 betting PF with AJ, only hands that will call me have me crushed and I have to fold if raised. I think calling is a better action

Lego05 08-30-2007 07:44 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
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why am I 3 betting PF with AJ, only hands that will call me have me crushed and I have to fold if raised. I think calling is a better action

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I disagree...you are calling out of position and will have to check fold most of the time. You will probably show an immediate profit from the 3bet. And people will at times call you with hands much worse than AJ (this is true at 50NL). Also it disguises the times when you 3bet with premiums.

Whether I 3bet or not depends on how often the villian raises.

wingchunflush 08-30-2007 07:49 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
I forgot that i was OOP here played too many big hands with AJ today i agree with 3 betting being oop. villain had KK so it doesnt really matter here but I can see me picking up more pots this way.

Lego05 08-30-2007 07:52 PM

Re: 2nl is this spew or ok?
 
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I forgot that i was OOP here played too many big hands with AJ today i agree with 3 betting being oop. villain had KK so it doesnt really matter here but I can see me picking up more pots this way.

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Yep...just btw though if I'm 3betting in this hand from the BB (which again depends on the villian; you haven't supplied any of the information I would use to make the decision) then I'm most certainly 3betting if I were on the button and if I were on the button then I'd be 3betting hands a bunch worse than AJs.


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