River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

Reads.

Button is 29/19 LAG/TAG (5-6 handed) over 500 datamined hands. No real reads. Cant remember playing him before.

BB is an idiot. 67/10 stats but quite erratic postflop. I havent seen him c/r with air but he will bet when checked too and a few hands before this one he donkbluffed the river in a pretty huge pot vs me HU.

(I think I know what the best play is. Just wanted to hear you guys' opinion)

Oh, and IMO I misplayed the flop. Prolly because I have been running bad lately. Feel free to comment on flop play, but I am mostly interested in the river.


Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.4SB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.2BB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9.2BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero...

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

I havent thought about what bb has much, but raise looks sweet.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

This is a difficult spot, considering btn i think u can fold this hand. I dont think BB is bluffing here or betting a 4 in a 3way Pot in wich he c/c twice. Btn folds nuffin that beats u against a raise on that River so this is either a call or a fold but never a raise i think.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

c/r flop for value and to prevent villain taking a free turn card with AQ AK KQ.

button should never be folding a better hand to a raise, hero's hand is never a J here. if I am button I snapcall AT

call because the pot is big and button can have 66-99 or maybe AK.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

don't try and fold out QQ+ here. Just call.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

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This is a difficult spot, considering btn i think u can fold this hand. I dont think BB is bluffing here or betting a 4 in a 3way Pot in wich he c/c twice. Btn folds nuffin that beats u against a raise on that River so this is either a call or a fold but never a raise i think.

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If I raise this river are you calling AA?

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

I could see a LAGTAG getting away from an overpair facing 2 cold on the river, but I wouldn't count on it.

btw, what would you have done differently on the flop? I think I play it the same so far. And I call the river, folding if BTN raises.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

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This is a difficult spot, considering btn i think u can fold this hand. I dont think BB is bluffing here or betting a 4 in a 3way Pot in wich he c/c twice. Btn folds nuffin that beats u against a raise on that River so this is either a call or a fold but never a raise i think.

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If I raise this river are you calling AA?

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instacall, your hand is face up

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

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This is a difficult spot, considering btn i think u can fold this hand. I dont think BB is bluffing here or betting a 4 in a 3way Pot in wich he c/c twice. Btn folds nuffin that beats u against a raise on that River so this is either a call or a fold but never a raise i think.

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If I raise this river are you calling AA?

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instacall, your hand is face up

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Ok ty.

I prolly gave LAG/TAG to little credit then. I thought I made an expert raise but judging from the responses so far I got lucky.

BTW Trypta. I would usually c/r the flop.

Re: River play. Raise, fold or call.
 

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This is a difficult spot, considering btn i think u can fold this hand. I dont think BB is bluffing here or betting a 4 in a 3way Pot in wich he c/c twice. Btn folds nuffin that beats u against a raise on that River so this is either a call or a fold but never a raise i think.

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If I raise this river are you folding AA?

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Oink you're not bad enough to have played a jack like this so either you rivered a boat and talk yourself into overcall or something or are much worse than i thought. eff it i call i think you are FOS. Let's see 99.

- that's what i hear in my head at the table. Then i say "QT, pretty close, weird no flop c/r, i'm gonna 3-bet this guy more lolo"