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Buck Turgidson 08-29-2007 09:50 PM

Need help on turn line
 
Obvious flop call, pick up some more outs on the turn.
Don't know whether to flat call or raise.

Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $11.80
BB: $14.40
UTG: $19.85
UTG+1: $20.00
MP1: $23.55
Hero (MP2): $25.00
MP3: $24.40
CO: $41.95
BTN: $20.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Turn: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero ?

chucky 08-29-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
Raise. Get allin on turn.

original_red 08-29-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
I like a raise.. take the pot, or disguise your hand and build the pot for a bigger river bet if you hit, increasing implied odds, and rendering your self able to bluff if you miss and he still show weakness... he might be on a flush draw as well, and raising could "throw him off" for a bigger pay off on river if you hit...

slowhand5 08-29-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
I would raise the pot every time. Half pot bet is not really showing much strength and you got a ton of outs.

However don't ever call with this hand in mid position full ring. Your only prayer is to catch a flush draw with this hand. I probably wouldnt play this gappy bastard in 6max.

alavet 08-30-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
repot
he is so weak

spackle240 08-30-2007 12:34 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
fist pump, mash the pot button, fist pump

wazz 08-30-2007 12:59 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
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However don't ever call with this hand in mid position full ring. Your only prayer is to catch a flush draw with this hand. I probably wouldnt play this gappy bastard in 6max.

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Hands with gaps can't make nut straights anymore? I didn't get the memo! Limping this is fine, I even raise quite often if it's double-suited.

slowhand5 08-30-2007 02:36 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
Wazz are you serious? Sure gappy hands can make nut straights, how often is the real question. If you raised A-3-5-7 double suited mid-position in a full ring game I dont think thats a great play. I probably would raise that double suited on the button in a six max game.

Full-Metall 08-30-2007 02:43 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
I see no point in raising. The guy has 8 bucks left, so I see no fold equity. He'll call river bet when you hit because he'll be getting good enough odds. Why do we want to raise the turn? We are currently behind his range. We could probably find a fold on the river if it blanks and will probably get paid off everytime when we hit.

iggymcfly 08-30-2007 02:45 AM

Re: Need help on turn line
 
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Obvious flop repot.

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FYP. Seriously, what do you think he's betting &lt; 1/2 the pot with here? Either a draw or a really weak made hand. If you raise here, you've got a very good chance of winning the pot right away and even if you don't, you can always take a free card on the turn.


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