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dragonystic 08-29-2007 09:24 PM

JJ, WTF is this?
 
Villain is like 13/10 and aggro, over the 70 hands we've played together at the table.

I just can't think of a single plausible hand for him to have here. He's pretty tight, so at first I was thinking he had a set. But that makes his turn raise peculiar. Check minraise on the turn is about as strong a line as one could take, why push me off my hand if he just filled up?

And if he had a straight, wouldn't he raise the flop, or lead the turn, or c/r more $ to protect his now more vulnerable hand.

I can't even think of a range to put this guy on. HELP!

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $98.50
UTG+1: $142.63
CO: $13.74
Button: $199.50
SB: $101.24
BB: $66.82

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $40</font>.

KingOfSwords 08-29-2007 09:27 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
I play AP .5/1.

I haven't been profitable at this limit yet, but the Baluga Theorum seems to apply often at AP .5/1. I hate to do it but I fold. He's got a straight or a boat.

Dex 08-29-2007 09:30 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I just can't think of a single plausible hand that Hero is ahead of here.

[/ QUOTE ]

dragonystic 08-29-2007 09:32 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
bluffs baby.

Dex 08-29-2007 09:37 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
[ QUOTE ]
bluffs baby.

[/ QUOTE ]

This does not look like a bluff at all to me, and I can't remember the last time that c/c flop, min c/r turn ended up being a bluff.

Therefore, maybe I should start bluffing like this more often. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

dragonystic 08-29-2007 09:42 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
maybe im reading too much into this then. because it looked like a bluff to me at the time, and it still does. if he's slowplaying a set on that scarier flop, why is he taking a stronger line when he now boated or quaded up? doesnt make any sense.

i could see small pair/straight draw doing this though.

its probably a good thing im posting this then, if my read is that terrible. cause my session earlier tilted me something awful.

Dex 08-29-2007 09:54 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
Yeah, I suppose he could be getting cute with 77 or something, but I think the more likely scenario is that he has something huge, realizes you probably have an overpair since you raised pf and 2 barreled it, and wants your stack.

Phoenix1010 08-29-2007 11:21 PM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
Gotta lay this if you still play like you used to.

dragonystic 08-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
ouch.

(and i dont)

UmbertoEco 08-30-2007 10:38 AM

Re: JJ, WTF is this?
 
He is sooo tight and he calls a raise from the SB. What is he supposed to have other than 22-TT,AQ,AJ ? Remove AQ,AJ,22 from his range on the turn , add some bluff possibility and what you take is :

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

231,660 games 0.005 secs 46,332,000 games/sec

Board: 4h 5d 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.435% 58.69% 01.74% 135972 4032.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 39.565% 37.82% 01.74% 87624 4032.00 { TT-33 }

Only my 2 cents...


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