Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

Button seems to be solid, thinking player. What's your play here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t14145)
UTG+1 (t5000)
MP1 (t6115)
MP2 (t450)
MP3 (t3775)
CO (t1840)
Button (t8203)
Hero (t9530)
BB (t2615)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t600, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t3775</font>, Button calls t3175, Hero calls t1575.

Flop: (t11525) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Hero?

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

shove. sorry he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

acutally c/c allin might be better. but im not folding here. whats is buttons SN?

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

It was something with ellipses in it, like "sir...ty", can't remember exactly.

I mean, I did shove, and I'm definitely not a results oriented person. But if the guy doesn't suck, what is his range here? Are we really a better than 3-1 favorite to be ahead?

Maybe this IS 100% standard, and it clearly would be if the button had shown any spewy tendencies, or shown himself to suck. But this player had seemed pretty good, I'd been at the same table the entire tourney.

Also, if I check and he shoves into a dry sidepot, should my thought process be "well, he has TT or JJ one in three times after calling four bets pre despite seeming like a sane, solid player...instacall!"

Maybe it should be, that's why I'm posting here, to get thoughts. But it felt immediately to me like I was ignoring a lot of evidence in front of me by auto-shoving.

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

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shove. sorry he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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c/f, sorry he had AA

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shove. sorry he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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c/f, sorry he had AA

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you really c/f here? i mean i need a strong read that this villian is very good, other wise with 6k left in my stack and 10k in the pot, i cant see myself folding

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

The thing is that 6K is still an M of 20, and what hand other than AA and maybe KK makes sense? I just don't know, I mean, I almost feel like I need a read that the guy sucks and likes to spew to put more chips in the pot after that preflop action.

Again, I am NOT results oriented, couldn't care less about results, I'm mostly interested in the thought process here, if it's really a "ZOMG CALL QQ" kinda spot despite the evidence.

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

lol wait it was sir...gfy? i think this guy is a little too loose so i would get it in.

Re: Ugly spot with QQ in $109
 

yes, that was who it was! hmm, he didn't seem it, or at least not stupid-loose (he wasn't rock or anything).

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shove. sorry he had AA [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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c/f, sorry he had AA

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you really c/f here? i mean i need a strong read that this villian is very bad, or at least a p5er, because only donks play AA so obviously

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