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ArcticCat 08-29-2007 12:35 PM

J7o from BB
 
Hello!
This is my first post here.

No reads.
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, hero checks.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2.5SB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB

bozlax 08-29-2007 12:44 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
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This is my first post here.

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Congrats.

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No reads.

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Ok...so why did you play it this way? Specifically: (1) why did you think you'd have an opportunity to c/r the flop; (b) if you DID get the opportunity to c/r the flop, why do you think it's a good idea to take it; iii. having c/r'd the flop, why did you then check the turn when a blank fell; and, finally, FOUR - having done all that, what's your reasoning behind calling two more bets?

Edit: before you get your panties in a bunch because I'm so mean (this is actually pretty mild for me, ask anybody), this is the way it works. Nobody can tell you the "right" way to play a hand, we can only tell you the way we would've played it. The best value you can get out of these forums when you're first starting out is to tell us what your thinking process was and let us critique that, rather than just saying, "How'd I play this?" or "What did I do wrong/right/etc?"

Buzz-cp 08-29-2007 12:46 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
If you c/r the flop, you have to bet turn.

However, my usual line here is to just bet out. I would rather just win a small pot than make one bigger one, where we are unsure about being ahead or behind.

Buzz

scpi10 08-29-2007 12:58 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
Why did you decided to check/call the turn and river after you check/raised the flop?

CrMenace 08-29-2007 01:06 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
Based on this, I'd recommend you open fold more often.

Sushiglutton 08-29-2007 01:30 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
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Edit: before you get your panties in a bunch because I'm so mean (this is actually pretty mild for me, ask anybody)

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I can confirm this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. I also think bozlax advices generally are great and this is not an exception.

sharpie 08-29-2007 02:04 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
Check/raising is fine as long as most people bet when checked to at 1/2, you should fire the turn though as they'll peel any 2 out of spite.

cmcneilly 08-29-2007 02:27 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
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Based on this, I'd recommend you open fold more often.

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Medic!! We've got wounded over here! Heck, I've got some collateral damage and I'm only reading it.

I lose money on these middle-pair hands as well. If we b/c on the flop, what then on the turn? If we check the turn, my experience is villain bets a fair amount.

n1_pete 08-29-2007 02:48 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
c/r the flop? please bet the turn or ask what are you doing there.

from BB i see that flop cheap and get away cheap. c/f that one.

KitCloudkicker 08-29-2007 02:49 PM

Re: J7o from BB
 
bet the turn.


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