30r FT hand against Bond
 

I dont have much history with bond but he knows who i am etc. I tanked preflop, can i 3 bet call or 3 bet fold? Both options sucked and i know Bond is fairly aggressive so i flatted in SB. Thoughts on flop/preflop etc. Whats the best line, Can i call flop? fold? I kinda don't like my shove but my time bank was going down... and i panicked and shoved..

Full Tilt Poker Game #3396912451: $16,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (25423358), Table 11 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:34:05 ET - 2007/08/29
Seat 1: ladydi330 (197,054)
Seat 2: MR_AH1 (161,237)
Seat 3: Gorrilla Man (191,466)
Seat 4: muckthenuts (233,470)
Seat 5: nana9372 (171,632)
Seat 9: charder30 (212,141)
ladydi330 antes 750
MR_AH1 antes 750
Gorrilla Man antes 750
muckthenuts antes 750
nana9372 antes 750
charder30 antes 750
charder30 posts the small blind of 3,000
ladydi330 posts the big blind of 6,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
muckthenuts: nh suh
MR_AH1 folds
Gorrilla Man folds
muckthenuts raises to 15,000
nana9372 folds
charder30 has 15 seconds left to act
charder30 has requested TIME
charder30 calls 12,000
ladydi330 folds
*** FLOP *** [4d Ad 8d]
charder30 checks
muckthenuts bets 32,000
charder30 has 15 seconds left to act
charder30 has requested TIME
charder30 raises to 196,391, and is all in

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

oh lol i had AJ no diamond

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

That's a huge bet considering your absolutely [censored] if you are called. I'd just 3bet/fold preflop or c/c flop, shove sux.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

I like fold or 3betting preflop mostly because of my cash game days... AJ is a trouble hand to play OOP and here you find a perfect example of that.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

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I like fold or 3betting preflop mostly because of my cash game days... AJ is a trouble hand to play OOP and here you find a perfect example of that.

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lets say you 3 bet to 45k, are you calling a shove or folding?

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

3bet and call shove bonds in a happy 4bet mood and rightfully so [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

but in a vacuum I just fold PF here yes its weak but it's the less of 3 evils.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

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but in a vacuum I just fold PF here yes its weak but it's the less of 3 evils.

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Say it ain't so. If you're folding AJ pf here, you are letting bond destroy you.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

that's fine I'll destroy the rest of the table.

I really hate 40bbs OOP vs an opp I know can and will 4bet light maybe not vs me personally but as OP I def think folding is the least -ev play.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

also this is a lot like the 3bet hand with AQ but A, our hand is 1 notch weaker and B we are OOP.

Re: 30r FT hand against Bond
 

The thing is, if you cannot 3-bet/call here, considering how wide bond's range is, 3-bet/folding is instantly profitable, so folding preflop should be out of the question.

Also, a hand like AJ is relatively easy to play OOP, easier than 77 or like T8s when 40 bbs deep.