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Mozart 08-28-2007 04:58 PM

calldown ok?
 
Villian seemed pretty passiv 57/21/0.69
I didnt see him raising with with crap postflop.

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.25BB

Guy McSucker 08-28-2007 05:17 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
Is 12% of his range on the river worse than your hand?

I really doubt it with those stats. I think you can muck this on the river.

Tryptamean 08-28-2007 05:30 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
He's not that passive. I think pf is thin, but I probably still call. I think the flop c/r is thin, but I probably still make it. I think you have to call the river. I guess I'm saying I play it like OP, but that is probably bad. If anything fold it preflop.

Oink 08-28-2007 05:33 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
How many hands are those stats over? 57/21/0.69 seems like a veruy rare combo of stats to me. Usually 57/21 guys are more aggro postflop..?

Anyaways I prolly play it like you. River is a call because he is a moron. Dont fold TP for 1 bet vs idiots.

NinaWilliams 08-28-2007 05:50 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dont fold TP

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EDIT: In all seriousness, Ive seen villains with similar stats go wild with JJ or AK or worse here, so I call down and dont feel bad if I lose.

Mozart 08-28-2007 05:53 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
[ QUOTE ]
How many hands are those stats over? 57/21/0.69 seems like a veruy rare combo of stats to me. Usually 57/21 guys are more aggro postflop..?

Anyaways I prolly play it like you. River is a call because he is a moron. Dont fold TP for 1 bet vs idiots.

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over 110 hands
didnt see him raising in this session (played with him maybe 30 hands) with just one pair oh ok one time he 3-bet me with AA.

jt1 08-28-2007 06:03 PM

Re: calldown ok?
 
If he's loosing or has taken a bad beat recently then I would call down against a guy with those stats, but if not I would fold the river. But if you can't fold TP to one more bet than folding the turn is perfectly fine. You aren't getting the correct odds to chase so calling the turn is only insurance against 88-JJ, A6 &amp; A7. I advocate taking that insurance but if you can't fold the river than I say fold the turn.


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