Top Two Check raised on river all in...
 

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BB ($1994.55)
UTG ($382)
MP ($178.60)
CO ($470)
Hero ($688)
SB ($321.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($48) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $34</font>, Hero calls $34, SB folds.

Turn: ($116) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, BB calls $80.

River: ($276) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1864.55</font>, Hero ???

Its 358 for me to call. Villian is redargoe, who i have as 20/17/4 over 500 hands. What the hell can he have there? The only thing I feel like he could be doing with this is like Q10dd or like a bluff. Any input?

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wow this is sick

you need to put in a LOT more information about your dynamic

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Sick spot man....I expect to see 33/66 most of the time here since this would be suicide as a bluff after you've showed so much strength.

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redargoe isnt capable of bluffing like this imo.. not sure wtf he has though

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call.

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i wrote out a long response but then started questioning parts of it. i think he never has a set or 2pr on a board like this (given turn action). i also think that the only reasonable hand he could possibly have (that beats us) is QTdd. and even that i feel is a stretch. who would c/c that hand instead of leading again or c/ring?

none of his line makes any sense and i would think he is just turning some random 1pr hand into a bluff when he realizes its no good.

note: ive never played with him and have no idea who he is.

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redargoe isnt capable of bluffing like this imo.. not sure wtf he has though

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i wouldnt be surprised if he is capable of bluffing like this.

however, in my limited and not so recent experience with him he did have the goods when he took this line.

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QT of diamonds seems the most likely from a non trixy POV.

So its basically QT of diamonds or he's beeing trixy and your likely ahead..
How often do you think he gets trixy in spots like this??

QT of diamonds is only a single combination, so hed have to get trixy a pretty low % of the time for me to want to call this. Then again, this is an extremly rare spot for a bluff c/r.. Vs me the only I hand I ever have here is exactly QT of diamonds.

Tough situation

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your range here seems somewhat polarized so it wouldn't look to be a good time for him to turn his hand into a bluff. On the turn I can definitely see him playing QTdd like this. Still don't know if I could fold though.

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You've probably got to call this once you lead the river for $200, but I wouldn't like it. He may actually have 66 or 33 here, so folding is possible. Think I've actually changed my mind during the course of this post from a call to a fold.