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osoverride 08-27-2007 12:31 PM

casino dilemma
 
at a local casino card room.
NLH 50/100 blinds $1/$2 full ring mixed playing styles mixed stack sizes, cash game.

my question is this.... does it seem a lil strange that the max buy in is only 50bb compared to a 100bb norm? also i have a strategy question. at this casino almost all the players at the 50/100 (small stack table) play for their stack almost every hand. making pot sized bets on every street. how would you try to control the action. how would you play this type of table?

im asking because yesterday i was playing at one of these 50/100 and i i sat down with 100 "everyone has me covered", im seating in at seat 3 at a semi aggressive table with a few nits and more meglo maniacs. i notes quick that almost all are playing big pots only and they play only abc. the guy to my right in seat 2 is a POW and VARY aggressive (willing to go all in calling and betting with nothing). after playing a few orbits picking up a few small pots from stealing the blinds and playing a nit post flop i loose half my stack with AAs(ill talk about that in a min). so i have about 45/50 doll left and its im in the BB. Table folds around to the SB"seat2" Player has <font color="white"> </font> J10off <font color="black"> </font> (his hand is in white to the left)he has me covered, and im holding q9 of demands. he bets 12 to go "almost a norm at this table. so i call in the BB flop comes 239 rainbow. he puts me all in. i call knowing he has nothing like always "he only over bets the pot on a semi bluff and a stone bluff" turn is a J and the river is a 10.


so i would like some input on this type of game if you don't mind.

"that hand that i lost with AAs"
i want to put this because it might give a better preview on how this table is going.
im in the im in the CO with AAs and i have less then everyone. there was a limp for the UTG so i raise to 15" a lil bit more the the opening norm" the table flds to the SB and he calls and the UTG calls. flop comes 10 7 4. SB donk bets pot and the UTG calls i call. pot gives puts my stack to pot almost even. turn brings a 5 "everything is rainbow. SB donks a $50 bet UtG raises to all in "more then i have and less then SB by about 6 dolls. i fold and SB calls. SB shows 710 and the UTG shows 68.

osoverride 08-27-2007 03:34 PM

Re: casino dilemma
 
bump

evagaba 08-27-2007 04:10 PM

Re: casino dilemma
 
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"that hand that i lost with AAs"


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Dream situation, played wrong. Everyone big stacked. Seeing AA in the first couple orbits of joining a game for 50BB. I go all-in preflop 100% the time in this situation. 6.5/10 times you will get called. You wont get called with 7T or 68 (well you might) but usually with smaller pairs and even KJ+ I have seen.

Later in the game with more chips I play different, but here I will either double up, win $3 or lose $100.

pzhon 08-27-2007 04:27 PM

Re: casino dilemma
 
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does it seem a lil strange that the max buy in is only 50bb compared to a 100bb norm?


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No. 100 big blinds is common online now. However, some sites cap the buy-in at a higher level (e.g., Absolute), some less (e.g. True Poker). Party used to cap the buy-in at 50 BB.

In some live games, the cap is lower. $100 is a common cap for games with a $2 big blind. In others, the cap is extremely high, or there is no cap. You just need to adjust to whatever the game is. When stacks are deeper, you should tend to play hands that will have an information advantage in big pots, speculative hands. When stacks are shorter, you should aim for one big pair.

The lowest stake NL game available is always a gold mine.

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also i have a strategy question. at this casino almost all the players at the 50/100 (small stack table) play for their stack almost every hand. making pot sized bets on every street. how would you try to control the action. how would you play this type of table?

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Don't try to control the action. Don't spend chips to figure out where you are during the hand. Get your chips in with good cards (don't wait for AA), and profit far more than you would if your opponents were playing rationally.

Khaos4k 08-27-2007 06:07 PM

Re: casino dilemma
 
If your looking for a low variance game, this isn't it. If you want a high profit game, listen to the advice from pzhon.

bm120 08-27-2007 06:37 PM

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No. 100 big blinds is common online now.

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Sorry, but I have to disagree. You are right that 100bb is common, but that doesn't mean that it is not a deep stack. When you buy in 100bb deep, you buy in full or deep. No matter how common. 20bb-50bb is short to mid stacked.

osoverride 08-27-2007 11:56 PM

Re: casino dilemma
 
sorry but your wrong. a 100bb stack is mid not high. i dont want to pull text from any 2+2 book but if you read the PNLH book then you will see that it is considered a mid stack. + i like the advice from all of you it is looking like a high profit game but maybe not my place...i like a real game where i can play some "real poker" and everyone isent playing "donk push fest" it seems like its more of a gamble then anything else and we all know what happens over the long term with people that "gamble" and push aside reason and skill.

bm120 08-28-2007 12:22 AM

Re: casino dilemma
 
id love to see that text actually, if you can find it haha good luck. gsih page 136 "maybe play .10-.20 blind no limit with a $20 (large) stack." direct quote look that up. btw $20 at a .1/.2 table is 100bb

PantsOnFire 08-28-2007 12:23 AM

Re: casino dilemma
 
Strategy:

Tight/aggressive, ABC, no slowplaying, very little bluffing, value bet, overbet, big pairs and big cards need big pf action, straights, flushes and sets rule.

Have a few buy-ins as backup, variance will be high.

osoverride 08-28-2007 12:27 AM

Re: casino dilemma
 
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id love to see that text actually, if you can find it haha good luck. gsih page 136 "maybe play .10-.20 blind no limit with a $20 (large) stack." direct quote look that up. btw $20 at a .1/.2 table is 100bb

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page 37-39 ha thank you


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