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automaton_22 08-26-2007 07:35 PM

NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
Hey all.
This is NOT intended to be a bad beat post, I hope it is more of a disaster aversion post.

I have lost 5 huge hands that I thought I had played well over the last thousand five hundred hands. My confidence has taken a bit of a beating, with these hands and flow-on tilt.

I am TAG ish, 21/20/4, and getting more aggressive all the time.

I want to run them by you to see if:

1. My bet sizing is flawed: could I have avoided these feltings by pricing out Villain in any way?
2. I could have minimised my loss in any other way.
3. I am generally too enthusiastic to get my chips in.

Am I getting unlucky or am I a donkey?



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HAND ONE

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $30.14
UTG+1: $24.60
CO: $90.44
Button: $37.73
Hero: $45.43
BB: $20.67

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $34.23</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($75.71, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $75.71)


River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($75.71, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $75.71)


Results:
Final pot: $75.71
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Kh Ah </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button shows 7s 9s </font>

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HAND TWO

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.54
UTG: $30.14
UTG+1: $24.6
Button: $24.65
SB: $39.19
Hero: $30.09

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $4.25</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $27.34</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $20.15</font>, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $5.44 returned to Hero.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($33.9, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $54.05)


Results:
Final pot: $33.9
<font color="#ffffff">Button shows 6c 6h </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 4d 5d </font>

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HAND THREE

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.40
UTG+1: $19.05
CO: $31.61
Hero: $25.30
SB: $28.45
BB: $7.63

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.25, 3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.25</font>, SB calls, CO folds.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.75, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $5</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $29.75
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows 9h 7h </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero doesnt show 8c 9c </font>

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HAND FOUR

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $39.85
Hero: $29
UTG+1: $19.05
Button: $25.22
SB: $18.64
BB: $54.78

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $50.78</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $18</font>.
Uncalled bets: $25.78 returned to BB.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($59, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $59)


Results:
Final pot: $59
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 6h 6c </font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB shows Td 9d </font>




stickdude 08-26-2007 07:48 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
You had the best hand when the money went in every time - that's all you can do. You can't control the results, so don't stress out over them.

To answer your questions -

1. Why do you want to "price out" the villain? You want him calling/raising with worse hands, which is what happened each time.

2. You want to get as much money in with the best hand as you can - minimizing your losses will also minimize your wins when your hand holds up (which it will more often than not)

3. See #2 - if you were blowing people out of the pot with your enthusiasm to get your chips in, that would be one thing, but I don't see that happening here.

You played them all fine. Don't worry about it, and move on.

Spurious 08-26-2007 07:51 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
I dont like the check with the str8 there, rest is fine imo.

shoxbb6 08-26-2007 07:51 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
Hand 1, no need to pot the flop, 2/3 pot is fine. Call is standard.

Hand 2, BET THE FLOP

Hand 3, Push river

Hand 4, why are you minraising, make a real raise.

Don't include results also

Ramana 08-26-2007 07:57 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
Except for that terrible minraise in the last hand I don't see anything wrong. This IS a bad beat post, case closed.

automaton_22 08-26-2007 07:58 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
Thanks guys, yeah the check on the flop with the straight was kind of gross, was hoping for a raise, the flop clearly gave me the nuts without much potential for improvement for anyone else, but agree, should have bet out.

Re the min bet in the 666 hand, this was triggered by a read of villain as kind of an aggro-donk, expected a reraise from him.

Rounder101 08-26-2007 09:15 PM

Re: NL25 - Reality check - Am I a SpewDonk ?
 
Hand 1: I normally would not make the pot size bet, bet like 6, but if he was going to raise it, I am definetely shoving. U had a monster hand, and he got lucky... well played.
Hand 2: same [censored], played it well.
Hand 3: u lost the minimum.
Hand 4: standard.
I agree, this seems as a bad beat post, u played all of em gr8.
Id say ur on a bad streak of cards, not a donk at all.


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