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n1nj4.br 08-25-2007 11:42 AM

nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
Villian is 26/15/2. I've been playing pretty tight, but had 3b him a bit. The thing is, he never fold to my 3bets, and except by a KK, he didnt saw any of my hands, so he prolly thinks I 3b light (well, maybe that's why he never folds to 3b).

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($406)
MP ($255)
CO ($91.75)
Button ($434.45)
SB ($107.75)
Hero ($382.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, Button calls $21.

Flop: ($59) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, Button calls $45.

Turn: ($149) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

callme 08-25-2007 11:51 AM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
I think you are in trouble here - not that i´m implying that he actually has you beat, but that you have to play a huge pot/AI when you want to see showdown, and you have to decide on the turn if you are willing to do this on such a board with top 2 200bb deep. And this board bears some probability, that you dont have the best hand.

If you check him - he will most likely float you with or without hands that have you crushed (if he sees you as a light 3better), and if you lead he shuts down with his bluff but pushes/calls anything else which gives you trouble alot of trouble...

I think the only real hand that you beat here and is in his range is AK/AT and your current image is working against you.

Jay Riall 08-25-2007 12:02 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
Just bet/call, not really a hard spot imo.

Chaos_ult 08-25-2007 12:03 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
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Just bet/call, not really a hard spot imo.

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Jay Riall 08-25-2007 12:03 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
Edit - maybe cr. Since he doesn't fold to your 3bets he probably has a propensity to float a lot.

Chaos_ult 08-25-2007 12:04 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
I think a lot of his range checks behind this turn.

n1nj4.br 08-25-2007 12:27 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
Dunno, I think villian will fold about 90% of worse hands if I bet turn, that's why im so unsure about what to do.

I think he will check this turn a very % of time, but our hand isnt THAT strong cause he hardly ever is felting with a worse hand, so we prolly have only one more street value.

But, if I check and he bets, im not sure if I want to c/r.

Maybe im beeing a big pussy cause the pot is deep, but I'm really lost here. I would like more imput from you guys, explain your thoughts.

nazahl 08-25-2007 12:46 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
u have top 2 in a 3bet pot against someone who you admit thinks you're full of [censored]. just keep firing away

Jay Riall 08-25-2007 12:47 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
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Dunno, I think villian will fold about 90% of worse hands if I bet turn, that's why im so unsure about what to do.

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What do you think people would say if you posted the hand but hand 22 instead of AQ?

callme 08-25-2007 12:52 PM

Re: nl200 - deep, top2 in 3b pot
 
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u have top 2 in a 3bet pot against someone who you admit thinks you're full of [censored]. just keep firing away

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Only "u have top 2 in a 3bet pot" doesnt mean you Auto-Go-Broke for 200 bb here


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