$100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

Villain is 31/9/2.5 over 300 hands. This hand occurs early in the session, although I have been decently active so far (23/18 over about 20 hands).

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $36.44
CO: $95.70
Button: $232.23
Hero: $156.05
BB: $239.87

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $32</font>, Button calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($102, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $60</font>


I am not really totally lost here.. I just want to make sure that I did make the right move.

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

if you check the river you should call to snap off things like 76 and vbet from KQ and such..... it's hard to put him on an ace except for AQ..... he rarely has a bdf

since he is quite aggro, i think check call is superior to bet fold

an oesd did hit, but i still think you're ahead of his range

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

raise more pre

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

Raise more preflop
you have a top pair hand that plays better heads-up and can be tough to play out of position

On turn, I likely bet smaller or check
I don't want to near the commitment threshold quite yet
There aren't many scare cards that can hit the river (runner runner flush???)

Basically, by the turn you either have him in a bad way or he has you (ie sets)

If he calls a big bet (like he did), you've now committed 1/3 of your stack and are in a tough spot

I would've led out $22 or so on the turn, or checked

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

checking turn is bad imo, there's just too much value left, also i would bluff the Q so often, that a bet w/ KK is very useful here.... i would have made it smaller though

also there's 2 oesds, a double gutter, and some gutshots on the flop that hit a donkey blind defense range, so you def. want to keep charging draws on the turn with a bet

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

uhh ez call. the ace shouldnt have changed too much either. i might just b/c the river.

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

bet more preflop, flop and turn. hes probably retarded, so better to build a bigger pot. As played indeed easy call. And never check turn vs a villain like this one.

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

I see that almost everyone is advocating a call.. Glad I posted, not glad I folded... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Thanks everyone. I felt that when that river hit there's no way he doesn't have at least an ace... What hands does he call that turn with? He thought about it for a while before calling. Maybe 99-JJ, 67, I also thought it could be A/K8 hearts.

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

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I see that almost everyone is advocating a call.. Glad I posted, not glad I folded... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Thanks everyone. I felt that when that river hit there's no way he doesn't have at least an ace... What hands does he call that turn with? He thought about it for a while before calling. Maybe 99-JJ, 67, I also thought it could be A/K8 hearts.

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what hands with an ace do you think get to the river in this way?

can't be Axs with a turned flush draw because the river completes the flush.

Re: $100nl: Worst possible river for KK
 

Why everyone is suggesting betting smaller on turn is beyond me.Pot control isnt even in my mind here.