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swede554 08-24-2007 03:09 AM

30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
Live 30/60. I mostly play 15/30 but there was a really soft spot playing in the 30 so I decided to sit in. Since joining the game about 45 min or so prior to this hand I'd been very aggressive due to a run of good cards but had only gone to showdown twice, winning both hands. My image is probably somewhat laggy.

8-handed. I raise in MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO, button and both the blinds call.

We go to the flop 5-handed.

Flop is Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Blinds check to me, I bet, CO raises, button folds, SB 3bets, BB folds, I?

CO had just joined the game, no read whatsoever on him, but he bought in for 2k and I think he's a regular 30 player so I assume he's decent. SB is a good regular 30 player from what I understand but I have no prior history vs. him. I'm pretty sure he knows that I usually play 15/30 and am taking a shot in the 30/60.

bigjoet 08-24-2007 04:50 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
cappucino!

Mr. T 08-24-2007 04:51 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
4-bet, charge the draws and worse Q's. That or call and bet or raise a safe turn. But I think it would be easier to play the hand out by 4-betting.

johnnylovescandy 08-24-2007 05:36 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
easy fold...

LukeSLTS 08-24-2007 09:49 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
If you cap here it becomes easier to figure out where you are on the turn. I think you are ahead of the cutoff at this point. Small blind may have AQ, a set, or a strong draw. Once you cap the flop and the SB check raises the turn it is an easy fold against most players.

blackasthma 08-24-2007 10:39 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
who said 4 bets = cap?

fold = good...

ackid 08-24-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
I think Its close btw a cap and a call on the flop.

If were viewed as lag sb may be puting us on a draw/ and have a weaker q. With big pot like this I'd like to stick around and re eval on the turn.

I agree w/ what the previous poster said about a cap making it easier to play on the turn. Its a tough spot though... If we do hit a queen we may have to pay off an AQ if we go ui on river.

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seminole0884 08-24-2007 01:04 PM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
Is there a cap now that the pot is heads up?
If 4bet = cap, i think its best to do just that, as its unlikely hell donk blank turn (easy fold then IMO), thus you can check behind on turn (b/c i feel you behind >>>> ahead thus saving 1/2bet=> implying calling river bet).
This does give draws free cards, but cold 3-bet would be v aggro (read dependent if he's that type of player)
..I guess I dont really know what you want to see on turn/river other than a Q that makes you feel better about your hand.

HOWMANY 08-24-2007 01:13 PM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
So you think you're behind but you want to cap?

seminole0884 08-24-2007 01:21 PM

Re: 30/60- KQ facing 3bet c/r on a Q-high drawy flop
 
do we want this hand to go to showdown? I was inferring from other posts that we want to.
If you call 3-bet on flop, you callng blank turn & river in hopes that he missed or has a worse q?
I would rather cap, use judgement on blank turn on betting or not, don't really want to bet/fold turn.


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