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Bacon Mmmm 08-21-2007 06:31 PM

NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
Villain is 16/12/3.

This villain is pretty nitty and folds a little too much which made me think I wouldn't get paid off if the flush hit. I thought I might fold out PPs QQ and below and KK a teeny tiny part of of the time by pushing the flop.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($189.85)
Button ($108.50)
Hero ($228.85)
BB ($137.55)
UTG ($18.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $10.

Flop: ($29) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $214.85</font>

What's the best way to play this when this deep?

KingGeedorah 08-21-2007 06:33 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
no other way to play this

Bacon Mmmm 08-22-2007 12:07 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
Bump

Any other thoughts on this? It kinda feels like spew but I'm not sure.

jumbojacks 08-22-2007 12:18 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
My only concern is the "nit's" flop raising range after calling your preflop raise =&gt; from my experience, whatever they raise here they'll call your shove with so I think you don't have too much fold equity besides maybe JJ/QQ (does THIS player raise JJ/QQ here?). Also, any idea how he perceives you? I think shoving or calling can be pretty close depending on the player.

DaCooler 08-22-2007 12:29 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
you dont need FE here, your a small favorite against an overpair w/out a diamond a small dog to one with it, either way get your money in, you sure as hell dont want to be pushed off the hand on the turn if you whiff.

Unknown Soldier 08-22-2007 12:30 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
errr you're raising pf and you have a problem with this situation??

Bacon Mmmm 08-22-2007 01:02 PM

Re: NL100 - Flop push 180BB Deep
 
[ QUOTE ]
errr you're raising pf and you have a problem with this situation??

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. As the matter of fact most of the hands I play are ones where I raised PF. And sometimes I get lost on exactly how to handle things [/sarcasm]

Seriously though, I'm trying to un-nit myself a bit and trying to learn how to think about some situations where I normally just fold pre flop. Deep stacks hurt my head a little more.


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