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Moseley 08-21-2007 10:47 AM

What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
If (use your imagination if you don't believe in an afterlife) God came to you in Heaven and told you that you were going to be born and that your birth would be random into a family living in the U.S.

You may be born to a family living in the ghetto.

You may be born to illegal aliens living in the U.S.

You may be intelligent, average, or ride the shortest bus they've got.

You may get lucky and be born with above avg intelligence into a very rich family.

Nielsio 08-21-2007 11:01 AM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
What is the question.

L'ennemi. 08-21-2007 01:57 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
I believe it's more or less a reference to the veil of ignorance.
Anyway the answer is obvious. An anarcho cpaitalist society.
Because even if I grow up in a ghetto, I be free to do anything I want and through my hard work I'll be able to have tremendous success.
Well that's assuming I can polish enough shoes as a five year old to pay my way into primary school...

esad 08-21-2007 01:59 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
Everybody else in the world is dead but me and three of the hottest super models

Is that what you had in mind?

Felz 08-21-2007 02:03 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
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I believe it's more or less a reference to the veil of ignorance.
Anyway the answer is obvious. An anarcho cpaitalist society.
Because even if I grow up in a ghetto, I be free to do anything I want and through my hard work I'll be able to have tremendous success.
Well that's assuming I can polish enough shoes as a five year old to pay my way into primary school...

[/ QUOTE ]

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Kaj 08-21-2007 02:37 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Anyway the answer is obvious. An anarcho cpaitalist society.

[/ QUOTE ]

That isn't obvious to me. But it would be a huge improvement to today's state of affairs.

AWoodside 08-21-2007 03:30 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If (use your imagination if you don't believe in an afterlife) God came to you in Heaven and told you that you were going to be born and that your birth would be random into a family living in the U.S.

You may be born to a family living in the ghetto.

You may be born to illegal aliens living in the U.S.

You may be intelligent, average, or ride the shortest bus they've got.

You may get lucky and be born with above avg intelligence into a very rich family.

[/ QUOTE ]

Tough question, not sure what my answer would be, although I can tell you it certainly wouldn't be a society which "maximized the minimum" at all costs. I imagine I would try to determine which social structures offered the highest expected values for me personally, and then make my selection among these by factoring in whatever my subjective aversion to variance happened to be at the time. I'd have to give it more thought to iron out all the details, but I imagine an ACist society would be a pretty good 1st order approximation.

Leaky Eye 08-21-2007 06:46 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
Polyandry

Brainwalter 08-21-2007 08:21 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 
I'm not sure but I know everyone would have a Pony.

QuadsOverQuads 08-21-2007 10:56 PM

Re: What would be your idea of a perfect society?
 

It would start with everyone owning land, by law -- subject to a minimum threshold of public accountability in its use.

No rent, no landlords, no homelessness, and the real estate speculators can kiss my ass.

Beyond that, there would be a basic public service requirement -- determined by what is necessary to maintain the basic health, education and welfare of the community.

That's the baseline -- everyone has a home, food for their kids, decent healthcare and a liveable community, and they have some basic civic responsibilities to go with it.

Beyond that, you can do as much or as little as you like, and your standard of living will rise or fall accordingly.


q/q


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