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DND 08-19-2007 11:53 AM

folding a set? lol
 
PartyPoker $400 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BU (16/12/19.00/26) (204h)
MP (33/6/3.00/20) (391h)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BU calls $8, SB calls $6, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">MP bets $231.36 (all-in)</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $462.72</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $418.7 (all-in)

I never thought I'd open a topic like this, but even if he does have 85s, 53s here I still have bad equity.
MP is obviously not a good player but I still don't think Bu calls w/ a hand like 99 on this board.

Board: 8s 5c 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.497% 23.50% 00.00% 1861 0.00 { 3d3s }
Hand 1: 76.503% 76.50% 00.00% 6059 0.00 { 88, 55, 85s, 53s }

Caballa 08-19-2007 11:54 AM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
If you're ever going to fold a set this is definitely the place to do it.

WorkNPoker 08-19-2007 11:55 AM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
Fold.

klownage 08-19-2007 12:02 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
lol at ever folding on such a good board.

if it's a cooler, and u can't handle it, move down

FireStorm 08-19-2007 02:24 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
I agree that folding here is idiotic. People post these hands all the time with 22 thru 66. If you can't get money in with these sets, simply fold preflop. What better board were you looking for here? Are you looking to flop top set with 33? Might be awhile.

Do you really think Button slams the pot to isolate with 88 or 55 here?

It's funny on internet forums because people advocate getting 6000 BB's in on the flop with AK when they flop TPTK, no matter what the board is, even though they have a one pair holding. Then, they want to muck sets on boards like this. Makes no sense.

Your range is pretty silly if it only includes hands that cool you and 85/53s. Seems tailored to reflect the fact that you got cooled here. Button never has an overpair or 76s here?

blankoblanco 08-19-2007 03:55 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
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What better board were you looking for here? Are you looking to flop top set with 33? Might be awhile.

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playing for quad value ldo

Teh1337zor 08-19-2007 04:02 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
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If you're ever going to fold a set this is definitely the place to do it.

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why

FionnMac 08-19-2007 04:03 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
Felllllllt.

Caballa 08-19-2007 04:23 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
[ QUOTE ]
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If you're ever going to fold a set this is definitely the place to do it.

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why

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MP (who isn't a complete maniac) minraises then shoves the flop for seven times the pot on a rainbow board with low cards and no straight possible. Button, a nit, shoves over the top of this massive overbet for over 100bb's despite it being plausible that the two players who checked before MP's bet could have a flopped set or two pair given how it was barely more than a limped pot.
With bottom set I think we're crushed here. I'd call middle set, though.

Teh1337zor 08-19-2007 04:25 PM

Re: folding a set? lol
 
wow


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