67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop
 

No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 5 players
Blinds : $1/$2

Stacks:
UTG : $200
CO : $356 (Hero)
BTN : $197
SB : $376
BB : $637.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero calls, BTN folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $34</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls ($26).

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($78, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $50</font>, Hero ...


SB is a 2+2er, (I'm not gonna out you), his 3bet% is about 6% so I expect him to be squeezing here a little bit, certainly AK, maybe AQ.

Note that I actually beat AK and AQ already, we're about 180 BB deep which is why I called preflop.

Do you call or raise now? If you call what's the plan for the turn? My image should be nitty, but I'm guessing he probably won't fold an overpair (?)

Re: Deep vs 2+2er ; good flop
 

not really a huge fan of pf but whatever.

if you raise, your not folding to a shove obv.

how does he view you? is your ranging range here strictly a set/straight/combo draw?

i think you should have decent FE vs. a overpair w. your image. i wouldnt mind making it like 130.

Re: 67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop
 

166

Re: 67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop
 

wtf w/ pf?
I like calling here. Your hand looks like a mid pair or a tricky overpair. If he has overs he's gonna check turn and you can take it down. If he bets again on turn I probably just call.
Raising flop is ok too I guess. We have mad equity and it's not that big a deal if he pushes us in (we're ahead). Just variance.

edit: bah, i'm leaning toward raising big. If he's any good he could probably lay down an overpair since we're deep.
I don't think either play is wrong.

Re: Deep vs 2+2er ; good flop
 

i dont really like pf, but you're pretty deep with position so its not too bad.

also, if i raise this flop im making it around 175 (intending to call a shove obv). imo a decent 2+2'er will probably be uncomfortable felting an overpair this deep, especially given your nitty image. even if he does shove you're flipping with an overpair.

Re: 67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop
 

Fold preflop.

As played call here. Bet most turns if checked to.

You can make it $170 too but I think the same hands fold to a turn bet that fold to a flop raise.

Re: 67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop
 

I like a raise to 155 or so, although I don't mind calling and planning to bet or jam his lead on the turn.

If you think you have no fold equity against his overpairs, which he'll lead blank turns, then I'm not sure what to do if we just call flop and turn happens to blank and he leads, so in that case a flop raise and coin flip is probably better.

Re: Deep vs 2+2er ; good flop
 

88/77 look like they're in the middle of your range if he reads hands well.

Re: Deep vs 2+2er ; good flop
 

137

Re: Deep vs 2+2er ; good flop
 

You have to raise flop, and raise big. Call a shove obv. This is the flop you were looking for and you have good equity against his range. If you just call and turn blanks you will find yourself in a tough spot when/if he bets. I like tubasteves suggestion. $166. Thats my 2 cents.