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tcorbin16 08-17-2007 03:38 AM

VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
villian is 43/13 and like waaaaaaay [censored] deep. he will pot out a lot of A high flops oop. he pretty much bets to when checked to post flop. now i gotz the 2nd nuts here with a pretty LAG image.

i have been gettin the best of him so far.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $320.00
BB: $3,909.85
UTG: $1,060.00
CO: $1,684.00
Hero (BTN): $4,383.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $20.00

Flop: ($65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, BB calls $45.00

Turn: ($155) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $95.00</font>, BB calls $95.00

River: ($345) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $265.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $1,040.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero ...? </font>

he has about 2.5-3k behind after he raises. do i shove? or do i call? or do i make a raise...? if so how much???

Requin 08-17-2007 03:44 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
Call. Also just to be nitty its the 5th nuts.

ThePuma 08-17-2007 03:47 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I will rr to 2.5k based on images. If he is aggressive as you say i think he will rr u on flop with A high draws. So I think your ahead here 99% of the time. There is a 4 card straight out there which is good. I would believe 2.5k would just be enough where he could pay you off. A little more than a min.

LucidDream 08-17-2007 03:50 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
given ur description of villain and history...i'd make it 2.7ish total on the river. i think u can probably get some frustrated calls from alot worse...obv the worse he is the more calls.

Caballa 08-17-2007 03:50 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I think a good case can be made for just calling, as if you call and lose you still have over 300BB with which to wait for a (practically) risk free spot to get most of villain's stack.

However, it's possible that he would call a shove with a worse flush often enough to compensate for the times he has the ace high one. Whether that's the case depends on what you know of him as a player.

Given only what you've said in your post, I'd call for the reason stated above.

Paul B. 08-17-2007 03:52 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
Minreraise. I think by calling you miss out on value from an overplayed 7x, 87, and smaller flushes.

aislephive 08-17-2007 04:00 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I like shoving because I think his entire river raising range is flushes and he probably never folds them to a shove. Sometimes he'll have the nut flush or some fluke straight flush but you're usually going to be kicking yourself when you call and he flips up T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or something.

Actually I didn't see the board has 4 cards to a straight, so I suppose he could have a random 7 here but that still doesn't seem too likely he would go for a big river c/r with that.

Reraising to $2.5k total or something is fine, so is shoving. I'd never just call though, you lose so much value against this guy by not raising.

Against a good regular I think calling is fine though, fwiw.

AAismyfriend 08-17-2007 04:49 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
I'm in the minreraise camp, I'd feel pretty retarded if i made it 2.7 and he shoved.

HedonismBot 08-17-2007 04:51 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
If his VPIP was under 40 I would consider just calling

AAismyfriend 08-17-2007 05:01 AM

Re: VERY NICE!!! ..... HOW MUCH!?!? 400+ bb deep
 
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If his VPIP was under 40 I would consider just calling

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