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Xanta 08-16-2007 11:00 PM

Three hands versus Pavel55
 
Villain is pavel55, that crazy reg you all know and love. For those of you who don't know him, he plays around 18/8/2 preflop, plays a million tables at once, and his postflop play has been described as rolling a 3 sided die. I'm new to Party NL200 and need to learn to play this tool. Here ya go.

Hand 1
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $249.30
BB: $616.63
UTG: $199.00
BTN: $258.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BB calls $14.00

Turn: ($44) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $36.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00

River: ($116) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $136.00</font>, Hero calls $136.00


Hand 2
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $212.45
BB: $214.00
UTG: $329.21
Hero (CO): $414.05
BTN: $402.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN calls $8.00, SB calls $7.00, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($32) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $32.00

River: ($136) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks

Hand 3
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $480.05
BB: $342.65
UTG: $223.75
MP: $200.00
CO: $49.24
BTN: $349.21

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.00</font>, BB calls $20.00, BTN folds

Flop: ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $94.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $458.05</font>

Hands are posted in chronological order. Hands are all in one sitting.

Jay Riall 08-16-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
1) Good, call river.
2) Bet flop! Turn I'd seriously consider min3betting.
3) More pf. Postflop fine.

Xanta 08-16-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
I was really stuck on the flop on hand 2. One on hand, I have a hand with fantastic equity in a multiway pot. On the other, I really really don't like getting check/raised in that spot. If I get it AI on the flop I'm likely in really bad shape, no?

Speedlimits 08-16-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
edit didnt see u had top pair on hand #2. yeah bet flop.


Xanta 08-16-2007 11:26 PM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
Speedlimits it's funny that you're for a bet on the flop, it was your post in this thread that made me check the flop. You argued
"Your opponents ranges most likely hit this board in some way. Pair/2pair/set....You have a monster draw that you don't want to get pushed off of, i.e. a better line is to check this flop, peel a turn and if it's checked around to you again, bet it.

Bottom line is, if you bet and get pushed back at, you are in a tough spot. If you get it AI on the flop your real equity to the pot is not so hot. "

Is this spot all that different?

1C5 08-17-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
on #2 I bet flop forsure and happily get it all in on the flop. You are not in bad shape and often if others are very aggressive on the flop, they are on some kind of draw(s) also.

Xanta 08-17-2007 12:26 AM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
I have the Ace of hearts. Unless they have the T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and a Jack maybe, they're never stacking off with worse draws. I really really don't want to get it in there.

Pat Southern 08-17-2007 12:31 AM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
I like how you played all 3 hands.

bunga 08-17-2007 12:36 AM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
im getting it in on the turn in hand 2

Speedlimits 08-17-2007 12:43 AM

Re: Three hands versus Pavel55
 
[ QUOTE ]
Speedlimits it's funny that you're for a bet on the flop, it was your post in this thread that made me check the flop. You argued
"Your opponents ranges most likely hit this board in some way. Pair/2pair/set....You have a monster draw that you don't want to get pushed off of, i.e. a better line is to check this flop, peel a turn and if it's checked around to you again, bet it.

Bottom line is, if you bet and get pushed back at, you are in a tough spot. If you get it AI on the flop your real equity to the pot is not so hot. "

Is this spot all that different?

[/ QUOTE ]

You have a TpTK here though which makes your hand a bit better than in the other thread. I think betting/checking are close but I prefer betting here for value because you are ahead of a lot of their calling range. You're even a favorite over any random 2 pair hand/also any villain with a 10 will probably call once.


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