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oldbookguy 08-15-2007 10:14 AM

Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
Finally, someone did a story of our plight, USA Today wrote a nice one.

Read in full here:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguid...neteller_N.htm

At the end of the story in comments section I posted the following:

Is it any wonder why, why the GOP lost control of congress last November?
250,000 American’s had some 94 million dollars seized as ‘evidence’ when the transaction records would have sufficed.
This followed of course the passage of the UIGEA at 11:45 at night that rallied MILLIONS of American Poker Players in opposition to the Frist / Kyl shenanigans used to pass the bill and intrude into the private homes and lives of citizens at the behest and urging of the far right Christian conservatives.
Is it any wonder why, no. Actions such as this will only lead to the continued downfall of what once was the ‘Grand Old Party’.

obg

Jerry D 08-15-2007 10:24 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
In the article they say that Internet gambling is illegal. Not good.

Uglyowl 08-15-2007 10:26 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
Thanks for the "heads-up". Work friendly link to article:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguid...neteller_N.htm

yahboohoo 08-15-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
The Gestapo aren't coming people. You can all relax.

QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:
[ QUOTE ]
Unlike a handful of other Neteller customers interviewed, Smith and Kundinger did not object to use of their names in this article. They say they aren't concerned about criminal charges. Nor should they be, says a former federal prosecutor.

"As a general matter, the federal government's interest is in going after the bookmaker instead of the gambler," says Joseph DeMarco, an Internet and privacy attorney who used to be assistant U.S. Attorney in Manhattan.


[/ QUOTE ]

oldbookguy 08-15-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
Thanks, edited mine as well, posted wrong link, I prefer a direct one as well.

obg

oldbookguy 08-15-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 

Very true and actually I was never worried about that.

More important though, we need posters to quickly join USA Today and comment.

It is not everyday we have the chance to post comments in a major online newspaper not specifically dedicated to poker / gaming.

Please, I hope several of us will take this opportunity and make the most of it.

obg

Uglyowl 08-15-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
Fulton rights in response to OBG: "Everything that goes wrong is the GOP's fault? Come up with a better excuse you moron.

Once again our opponents are quick with the well thought out counter-arguments. Step up and contribute everyone.

My addition to the article:

<font color="blue">Fulton claims that it is absurd that it is the GOP’s fault, but in this case it is. I was a staunch Republican for my entire life before they decided to infringe on my right to play poker from my very own living room. The architects of this law were Bill Frist, Jon Kyl, Leach, and Goodlatte all Republicans, as they cater to the religious right. Further if you look at the pro-gaming laws being introduced now, the cosponsors are 80%-90% Democrat. The only members of Congress who had the brains to stand up against the UIGEA were Democrats and Ron Paul.

I really got into online poker when I was diagnosed with cancer and was unable to make the long trip to the casino due to fatigue and a weakened immune system. Online poker allowed me to continue to play the game I loved and was a great escape during a very scary time in my life.

Today, I have been in remission for over three years and continue to enjoy online poker still today since it is more allows more time at home with son and play for an hour after he goes to bed, cheaper (no gas money needed), and eliminates the four hours of driving to and from a casino.

Poker has been unfairly treated as horse racing, lotteries, solatair for money, fantasy sports (some entry fees in the thousands of dollars) get a free pass. </font>

oldbookguy 08-15-2007 11:19 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
Nice, I posted a follow-up as well as follows:

FultonPub, while I do not engage in name calling, please read a bit more carefully.
I do not blame the GOP for this mess per say, I point out that a majority of Poker Players place passage of the UIGEA squarely on the shoulders of the GOP, it was (and there is no question) they who took the House bill from the Senate Union Calendar with no committee hearing and morphed it into the Sage Ports Act with no Senate debate or hearing, therefore…..
Was this the only issue that cost the GOP, no.
Was this the one that, so to say, was the straw that broke the camels back? If it was not; it sure caused big sag with the estimated millions of Players outraged by it.

We need to control this depate, I notice top2pear commented as well!

More please!!!!

Engineer, where are you?

obg

CountingMyOuts 08-15-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 
I also threw in my two cents:

"The author needs to do his homework, internet gambling is not illegal from the bettor's standpoint. There is no case law that currently stands to make it illegal. The Wire Act was not written with the intention of covering internet gaming and is completely out of date. It's simply posturing and scare tactics by the DOJ and FBI to claim the Wire Act makes internet gaming illegal.

Also anyone who does not see that the UIGEA was a GOP issue is delusional. This was clearly a case of pandering to the "religious right", a key component of the the GOP's base. Because of this, the U.S. will eventually be hurt in all of our various trade agreements (WTO, etc.). Do we expect the WTO to help us against copyright infringements by China now that we are direct violation of our WTO agreements?"

oldbookguy 08-15-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Great Neteller Poker Story At USA Today
 

nice post!

I like the part of the 'only ones who ever took my money'.

obg


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