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The Man 08-14-2007 12:47 PM

200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $199.15
BB: $112.75
UTG: $383.90
UTG+1: $197.00
Hero (MP1): $283.20
MP2: $163.40
MP3: $471.60
CO: $282.05
BTN: $131.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $12.00</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls $12.00, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $51.00</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $39.00

Flop: ($117) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $80.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $231.05</font>

Villian is 23-11-4

I have no reads on him as this is his 80th hand. My first instinct is that he has QQ or JJ all day. As my time was running down I wanted to click that fkn call button SO hard....? What to do?

moldman 08-14-2007 12:58 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
Fold. His range is... JJ, QQ, KK, AA and maybe possibly AKd with this push.

Save the $150 and fold.

piebear 08-14-2007 01:17 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
definate fold

13,860 games 0.028 secs 495,000 games/sec

Board: Jc 2d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 84.293% 80.85% 03.44% 11206 477.00 { JJ+, AdKd }
Hand 1: 15.707% 12.27% 03.44% 1700 477.00 { KhKs }

bkar824 08-14-2007 01:44 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
Yeah, don't stack off. JJ QQ all day. I doubt his range is even AA KK. Pretty sure he's got AKd, JJ, QQ.

Mike Kelley 08-14-2007 02:39 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
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Yeah, don't stack off. JJ QQ all day. I doubt his range is even AA KK. Pretty sure he's got AKd, JJ, QQ.

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People at $400NL min raise a 3bet with JJ,QQ? and to min raise AKs is even more ridiculous. I don't know what villains range is here but I am highly suspect of the ranges you've got so far.

The Man 08-14-2007 03:52 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
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Yeah, don't stack off. JJ QQ all day. I doubt his range is even AA KK. Pretty sure he's got AKd, JJ, QQ.

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People at $400NL min raise a 3bet with JJ,QQ? and to min raise AKs is even more ridiculous. I don't know what villains range is here but I am highly suspect of the ranges you've got so far.

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I think you misread the action

He cold called a min 3 bet, and then called my pot sized 4bet. I think it is hard to put him on AA or KK here... but I cant see him having AQ either blah.

CalledDownLight 08-14-2007 03:55 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
fold

Mike Kelley 08-14-2007 03:57 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
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Yeah, don't stack off. JJ QQ all day. I doubt his range is even AA KK. Pretty sure he's got AKd, JJ, QQ.

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People at $400NL min raise a 3bet with JJ,QQ? and to min raise AKs is even more ridiculous. I don't know what villains range is here but I am highly suspect of the ranges you've got so far.

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I think you misread the action

He cold called a min 3 bet, and then called my pot sized 4bet. I think it is hard to put him on AA or KK here... but I cant see him having AQ either blah.

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I think I push here, now that you've pointed out my misread of the action.

Albert Moulton 08-14-2007 04:09 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
I think you can fold.

Villain might have AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AdKd, AdJd. AA and KK might be discounted some since he only called MP2s reraise and then only called your re-reraise. That leaaves QQ,JJ, and AdKd, AdJd. I suppose you might through in 9dTd if he's a big gambler, so include 9dTd if you include AA and KK.

I don't have pokerstove, but vs that range you would need about 25% equity to call (pot odds are about 2.8:1).

Anybody have pokerstove? My gut feeling is that your equity is probably lower than 25%. If that's true, then fold.

BT2 08-14-2007 08:01 PM

Re: 200 NL KK gets cold called pre, bad board
 
check/fold flop


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