1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

1020 game is 5 handed.
I havent been out of line in this game - villian knows me a bit, respects my play and knows im regular. I havent played with him much but his stats are rockish according to PT. 24/10 - fold sb steal: 78, fold bb steal: 70. So he really likes his blinds [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Folded to me in sb, I open it up with 78s, he calls. Effective stacks 3k.
Flop 666.
I bet 150 he calls.
Turn 8.
I bet 380 into 490 he says raises to 815 with 2k left. I stall a bit and shoves.

Pokerstove against a 30% calling range.
Board: 6d 6h 6s 8c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 74.700% 72.37% 02.33% 11336 365.00 { 8h7h }
Hand 1: 25.300% 22.97% 02.33% 3598 365.00 { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

I would prefer a fold. Especially given his aggression. It sounds results-orientated, but you might wanna consider checking the turn, because he probably thinks that you are expecting him to call... That could on the other hand mean that he's on a very creative bluff, but he hardly comes off as a really good player...

I don't know what your point with the Pokerstove range is.

Are you bluffing or value betting?

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

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Are you bluffing or value betting?

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Cant it be both ?

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

i doubt he folds a better hand here very often.
your turn bet is bad, once u get raised its best to call down if you think hes bluffing or fold if u think hes not, but shoving is suicide.

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

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i doubt he folds a better hand here very often.
your turn bet is bad, once u get raised its best to call down if you think hes bluffing or fold if u think hes not, but shoving is suicide.

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Ok. What should I be pushing with then? QQ+ ?

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

What do you think he has?

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What do you think he has?

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55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o

.. one of these [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

That range has way more hands without SD-value than with, so call and check-call river, if his range is really that big with that raise. The value you get from his bluffs outway the value you lose to lower pp's and your lack of hand protection imo.

Re: 1020 150 bb Pushing villian of a ~boat
 

wtf is up with that range?

You think he's floating all those hands on a trips board? lol

besides, your equity vs his raising range isn't what's important here.

What's important here is how often we fold him off a hand with outs, how often he'll bluff the river, and our equity vs his calling range.

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wtf is up with that range?

You think he's floating all those hands on a trips board? lol

besides, your equity vs his raising range isn't what's important here.

What's important here is how often we fold him off a hand with outs, how often he'll bluff the river, and our equity vs his calling range.

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I dont think he floats em all - just trying to illustrate his pf calling range. If he calls with that wide a range he has to be floating flops like this to make his pf strategy profitable.