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pfapfap 08-10-2007 06:35 PM

How much table talk is too much?
 
Last night some players were getting a bit out of hand, despite urgings by me to tone it back. I don't want to remove the players, as they're good for the game. Also, nobody else seemed to mind. I'm also of the opinion that anybody talking is giving me information, and I like information. Even if it's about my hand, I now know how the talker is interpreting me and can instantly adapt as necessary.

It seemed once I got it to stop a bit that action slowed down for a while. The talking was creating friendly rivalries, encouraging people to try to be trickier, etc. A downside is that it was potentially educating players, but I want to improve and shouldn't be afraid of people I consider not as good as me also improving, as long as I remain a step ahead.

Thoughts?

DavidNB 08-10-2007 06:58 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
Its hard to say without examples but, as long as its friendly, let it ride. Its hard to tell players to stop unles they are breaking the rules.

pismeyer 08-10-2007 11:00 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
Any info is good info. Amongst friends I don't mind one bit. I've been changing my game so much lately that most of the talkers are so far off base about my hands, that I just let them talk.

No worries, it's all good.

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PantsOnFire 08-12-2007 07:41 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
I love these situations. To me, it is much more EV to participate like one of the gang except I'm lying all the time and reinforcing false beliefs about my play.

And if they do get something right about my play, I'll conciously do the opposite one time and then show my cards right away.

Oh and if they are believing your lies, you get to muck face down a lot more with no resistance. Yummy.

FireStorm 08-13-2007 10:41 AM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
No amount is too much. If they aren't breaking the rules, let them talk away. It is then up to you to do with it as you wish.

Khabbi 08-13-2007 12:21 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
I think without examples we can't much comment on you situation. Only that unless rules were being broken, table talk really can't be limited.

Lottery Larry 08-14-2007 11:32 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
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Only that unless rules were being broken, table talk really SHOULDN'T be limited.

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If you want to play automan poker, pfap, go to a casino. Home games need some chatter

pfapfap 08-15-2007 01:24 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm a little surprised how pro-chat everyone here is. I put this to a friend/pro who said I needed to nip it all. His point is this: we are not a group of pre-existing friends who happen to play poker; we are people coming together for the purposes of poker. Both of us feel I have some obligation to protect the weaker and/or newer player, who may not feel comfortable speaking up.

I'm talking things like, "oh, betting that overpair, huh?" or "ooh, your flush draw came in" or "he definitely has the wheel".

Like I said, I dig the chatter, but that's because it mostly helps me. Not sure how I'd feel if I was in a pot with a straight flush against quads and someone decided to share his read on me, tho'. I suppose that's results-oriented thinking and long-term I'll benefit from knowing there's a read, but still.

So where do you draw the line? Anywhere?

Lottery Larry 08-15-2007 01:37 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
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I'm talking things like, "oh, betting that overpair, huh?" or "ooh, your flush draw came in" or "he definitely has the wheel".


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That might be different. Are the people in the hand currently, or bystanders? The latter should STFU.

Khabbi 08-15-2007 04:29 PM

Re: How much table talk is too much?
 
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I'm talking things like, "oh, betting that overpair, huh?" or "ooh, your flush draw came in" or "he definitely has the wheel".

So where do you draw the line? Anywhere?

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If the player making those comments is heads up with the player holding the hand he's talking about then it's ok.

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If the above statement isn't true, this isn't simple table chatter. The comments may affect the decision of someone else and that player should STFU.


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