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thebawler 08-10-2007 08:30 AM

Pocket ACES i hate them
 
overplayed or unlucky? always seem to get overpairs cracked by sets


PokerStars Game #11408930067: Tournament #57350258, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/08/10 - 07:54:01 (ET)
Table '57350258 29' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: O'Con Sweed (30769 in chips)
Seat 2: IBLUFFULOL (18620 in chips)
Seat 4: asgbawler (31650 in chips)
Seat 5: Noselake (31125 in chips)
Seat 6: AllInKevSUFC (5206 in chips)
Seat 7: kalfa (26002 in chips)
Seat 8: mikeylm (36744 in chips)
Seat 9: Brambo32 (37796 in chips)
O'Con Sweed: posts the ante 100
IBLUFFULOL: posts the ante 100
asgbawler: posts the ante 100
Noselake: posts the ante 100
AllInKevSUFC: posts the ante 100
kalfa: posts the ante 100
mikeylm: posts the ante 100
Brambo32: posts the ante 100
O'Con Sweed: posts small blind 500
IBLUFFULOL: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to asgbawler [Ad As]
asgbawler: raises 1550 to 2550
Noselake: folds
AllInKevSUFC: folds
kalfa: calls 2550
mikeylm: folds
Brambo32: folds
O'Con Sweed: folds
IBLUFFULOL: folds
*** FLOP *** [5c 6c Td]
asgbawler: checks
kalfa: bets 3000
asgbawler: raises 9000 to 12000
kalfa: raises 11352 to 23352 and is all-in
asgbawler: calls 11352
*** TURN *** [5c 6c Td] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [5c 6c Td 8s] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
asgbawler: shows [Ad As] (a pair of Aces)
kalfa: shows [6d 6h] (three of a kind, Sixes)
kalfa collected 54104 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54104 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6c Td 8s 3d]
Seat 1: O'Con Sweed (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: IBLUFFULOL (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: asgbawler showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Noselake folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AllInKevSUFC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kalfa showed [6d 6h] and won (54104) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 8: mikeylm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Brambo32 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

black666 08-10-2007 08:42 AM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
Is 2.5xBB your usual raise from UTG?

Raise bigger PF, lead the flop (why give a flush- or straightdraw a free card?) and call any shove or shove any raise. With 31xBB, this hand played itself on that board.

gs3737 08-10-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
The pre flop raise seems on the small side, and I dont love the check on the flop, but otherwise this is a standard loss with AA.

ssnyc 08-10-2007 11:20 AM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
been there a lot lately and I don't think you can do much else here heads up...

Dunkman 08-10-2007 12:10 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
PF raise is fine, I don't like the flop check either, you were getting stack here no matter what. Except in some really strange spot, there's just no way you're going to get away from aces when you start the hand with a 30 BB stack.

MJBuddy 08-10-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
BBV post.

That said, your villain played the hand very well.

SuperUberBob 08-10-2007 01:23 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
I raise 2.5x BB when the blinds get big too. I don't mind the preflop raise.

Though I'd probably bet the flop here. Granted there's no way you're folding aces, so you're gonna lose this hand no matter what if villain flopped a set. But you should bet the flop.

KneeCo 08-10-2007 01:32 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
PF raise is fine as long as you're raising that much with any hand you're opening UTG not just AA (I don't mind varying opening raise size based on position, but not based on hand obv).

Lead the flop (~2/3rds pot), play for stacks on that flop.

TFGoose 08-10-2007 03:12 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
OP,

With these stacks, anyone who doesn't lose all their chips holding AA with that board is terrible. You got unlucky here. Suck it up, and next time lead the flop (as others have said).

--TFGoose

thebawler 08-10-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Pocket ACES i hate them
 
Yes almost all of my raises are 2.4-3x never really over 3x unless BVB situatition........so this was definatly a standard open for me......once that flop hit I thought if I lead out he would fold his 2 overs or something like that.......so I gave him some rope so he could try to take the pot down on the flop. I usually c-bet this 100% but i just felt the c/r isnt too bad for this sit. Dont you think he would bet almost any PP here and any flush draw?? any opinions??

Yes this villan did play this way too incredibly good for me.


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