200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

200 6 max on Stars. Villain is 19/15/3 over 1k hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($101.10)
BB ($122.05)
UTG ($194.10)
Hero ($214.70)
CO ($218.50)
Button ($219.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3s.gif.
UTG raises to $8, Hero calls $8, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($35) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/kd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/jh.gif (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $25, CO folds, Button calls $25, UTG folds.

Turn: ($85) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/tc.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $70, Button calls $70.

River: ($225) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5d.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $111.7 (All-In), Button calls $111.70.

Final Pot: $448.40

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

Crai on turn....

river sucks..

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

Turn is fine,you really want to let villain check behind possibly with a flush draw here???River is tough,if we are going to call a bet here,isnt it better to just bet???Any hands we do beat,like 2 pair hands might just showdown at this point.Horrible spot.Are you suggesting C/F???

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

Anyone else have any thoughts on river?Im curious,this is really a tricky spot in my mind,it seems like no mans land to me.My thinking way off here???

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

5thStreetHog,
I think the river is extremely close too. I agree with your reasoning that if we are calling, we should just bet to gain value from 2pr, however I think the only 2pr hand he could have would be KJ which I assume raises the flop nearly always. Some sort of combo draw seems far more likely to me, so c/fold is prolly best, but during play, meh I flip a coin.

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

Yeah KQ could be possible and maybe a suited K10 given there was 3 callers by the time button entered,but unlikely.I agree we are usually dead here,its just a really bad spot.I was curious what others thought.

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

i rhink river is c/f vs this guy. its close. He would be pretty dumb to value bet 2pr here anyway. push >> c/c though.

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

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Yeah KQ could be possible and maybe a suited K10

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I discounted these because I think it's unlikely K10 calls the flop, and also unlikely that KQ calls the turn.

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

Instead of just pushing all in on the river, a check call maybe better because at least it may induce a bluff. By pushing you're proably going to scare off any 2 pairs.

Re: 200 NL: Bottom set multiway raised pot drawy board
 

not trying to pick on you Kcrow, but every single post i read where a scary card comes on the river, someone advocates C/C. unless you have a very good read, this is 100% either shove or check/fold. if we check, worse hands will check behind and better ones will bet. i really think this is one of the biggest mistakes people make at small stakes. there is like a 5 percent chance that if you check/call the river you will win.