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sunnypoker 08-09-2007 12:30 PM

So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
hey guys, so i play on iPoker, 0.25/0.50NL 6Max

i have only recently started using pokertracker seriously to analyze my play and to actually import all my hands (and actually focus to play seriously rather than donking off easily.. although i may have tilted at times in between)

I have about 17k hands. and my stats combined is about 25/12/2.8
(i say combined because i have 13 hands from Ipoker and about 4k from OnGame network.. but that's not the point.. anyawys)

some other approximate figures:

VP$in SB : about 47%...
went to showdown about 25%
won at showdown about 56%
my AF are about
Flop: 3.6, Turn: 2.5, River 1.4 ish....

what does this mean??

what hand range does this mean i'm usually playing and which of those hand range am i raising??
are my aggression numbers not strong enough??

i know 17k isn't a big sample size but i still want to know how i should interpret these numbers.
I'm running at about 11PTBB/100

YanP 08-09-2007 12:53 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1

best pokertracker advice i ever got, hope its good for you

Manchild84 08-09-2007 01:35 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
You limp/cold-call waaaaaaay too much. That's a pretty gross spread, to be honest. If youre playing that many hands, you need to be more aggressive PF so you can still win when youre not hitting. So either cold-call less, or 3b more, or open limp less or something. Read Tiens post on 6 max aggression.

LegendLength 08-09-2007 02:32 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
Yes, a limp should be very rare at 6 max, meaning your voluntary and raise figures should be quite a bit closer.

Check_The_Nuts 08-09-2007 02:33 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
where's the 13% gap coming from, how'd u manage that?

TheSalche 08-09-2007 02:44 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
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where's the 13% gap coming from, how'd u manage that?

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You limp/cold-call waaaaaaay too much.

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Also, your AF drops down a lot as the streets go by ... do you turn from a maniac on the flop to a calling station on the river?

Check_The_Nuts 08-09-2007 02:52 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
thesalche: AF look fine. You shouldn't be more aggro on turn/river than you are on the flop.

TheSalche 08-09-2007 03:27 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
No you shouldn't be, but should the numbers drop off that much? I guess I don't have my PT with me right now, but I would think that AF turn ~ AF river < 1.5 x AF flop.

Mr_Pathetic 08-09-2007 04:19 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
AF by street can vary for many people. When I used to cbet alot and double barrel some mine was normally like 3-5 on flop 3-2 on turn and around 1.5 on river for a total around 3 or something. Now my AF per street runs around 3 flop, 2-3 turn, and 3-4 river. Just depends on how you rely on winning without a hand. For my hands today I am at 4 for flop 1.7 for turn and 2 for river. I see alot of good players that I have datamined on FT for over 20k hands follow this pattern. Some are 3-4 on flop, ~2 on turn and ~2 on river while some are ~3 on flop, turn, and river. Just depends on your style. Do you cbet lots and shutdown later or do you float around and get all tricky trappy.

Pants Optional 08-09-2007 04:21 PM

Re: So I\'m a 25/12/2.8 ... what does this mean?
 
my AF drops are huge compared to yours. 3.8 on the flop, 1.4 for turn and river. i dont see a need to 2 barrel, and for some reason, my triple barrel bluffs almost never work. maybe the A is a scarecard, trns out they floated the crappy flop for A high with it


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