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Oki-Oki 08-09-2007 04:49 AM

5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
Opponent is running at 62/40 over 21 hands so I'm not sure what to read into that. Overall he has been pretty aggro since hes been at the table. He doubled up about 10 hands ago with AA.

Relevant stack sizes: HERO $1200 Villian $2283

Folded to villain in CO who raises to $40
Hero BB re-raises to $130 with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

FLOP 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets $188
Villain calls

TURN
Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO checks
Villian bets $ 272
HERO calls (should i be raising here? or letting him fire away?)

RIVER
J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
HERO checks
Villian Shoves (has us covered)
HERO ?????? $614 to call pot is $1809

Is this a spot where we call and hope he is bluffing, or against such an aggressive opponent do we just give him credit.

Also any other comments appreciated. I realise that the flop bet was prob a little small

xSCWx 08-09-2007 04:56 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
Smells like QQ. There isn't much we beat at the river, but I probably call anyways and put out a prayer that they have AK.

BigCityBanker 08-09-2007 05:08 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
I would not be comfortable calling the river so I fold.

His turn bet is questionable but I think its a weak lead looking for somebody to bite at more than its a retarted bluff betsize.

Yentz 08-09-2007 05:28 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
Against a superloose aggro player I think I prefer checkraising all in on the turn, without being too happy about it.

I think you can fold river, he might have AK but its not to likely since you have two aces, and everything else beats you. Even longshots hands you could hope for on the turn like like KJ, JJ and spades got there.

HaiaN 08-09-2007 05:29 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
I do not understand the turn check .. isn't b/c better? or crai..

Oki-Oki 08-09-2007 05:39 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
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I do not understand the turn check .. isn't b/c better? or crai..

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Yeah thats why i posted the hand I dont think i really play any street very well. Im heading out now but ill check back when i get home later tonight

Brian 08-09-2007 05:55 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
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I do not understand the turn check .. isn't b/c better? or crai..

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Concur. I hate the check-call. River card is vomitous and I don't mind the fold; all in all, a tough spot I'd rather avoid being in by playing the Turn differently.

Brian

Oki-Oki 08-09-2007 10:28 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
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I do not understand the turn check .. isn't b/c better? or crai..

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Concur. I hate the check-call. River card is vomitous and I don't mind the fold; all in all, a tough spot I'd rather avoid being in by playing the Turn differently.

Brian

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Yeah I agree, spoke to SEABEAST tonight and he seems to think that the key to the hand is that the PFR is a too small. And because of this the pot is not big enough on the turn to CRAI, which makes the hand overly complicated to play.

jj12 08-09-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
bet/call turn

Scipio 08-09-2007 12:16 PM

Re: 5/10 AA - Facing river shove on Ugly board vs a 60/40
 
I donīt like a cr ai on this turn because if he checks behind he doesnīt call our Riverbet often.
He has a good madehand ( AK+) or a hand we donīt see any value if we check but we give free outs. I donīt think that villain will (bluff-)bet with a hand like TT so i bet the turn.


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