Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

He started spewing and now has tightened up. This is the first check raise hes done. What's my play?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3196627368: Table Mare (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:56:25 ET - 2007/08/08
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 ($4,572)
Seat 2: twin-caracas11 ($2,080.50)
Jeffmet3 posts the small blind of $5
twin-caracas11 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeffmet3 [9c 9h]
Jeffmet3 raises to $30
twin-caracas11 calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2h 9d Th]
twin-caracas11 checks
Jeffmet3 bets $40
twin-caracas11 raises to $180

My thinking was that he probably was on a draw.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

$600 looks good, I think he shoves a lot of his draws over your 3 bet.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

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$600 looks good, I think he shoves a lot of his draws over your 3 bet.

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This sounds good. If this is the first time he's cr'd, then he probably likes his hand. Plus there's an awful lot of cards you don't want to see hit the turn when you guys are deep. Just bump it up now.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

thanks, that was my thinking so i raised to $600 and he folded.

just wanted to make sure my line was good.

also, am I bluffing or going for value here, I wasn't sure?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3197309829: Table Mare (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:04:52 ET - 2007/08/09
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 ($4,815.25)
Seat 2: efrayzor ($1,393.75)
efrayzor posts the small blind of $5
Jeffmet3 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeffmet3 [Ad 5d]
efrayzor raises to $30
Jeffmet3 raises to $90
efrayzor calls $60
*** FLOP *** [Kh 6d 3c]
Jeffmet3 bets $125
efrayzor calls $125
*** TURN *** [Kh 6d 3c] [As]
Jeffmet3 checks
efrayzor has 15 seconds left to act
efrayzor checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh 6d 3c As] [5h]
Jeffmet3 checks
efrayzor has 15 seconds left to act
efrayzor bets $200
Jeffmet3 has 15 seconds left to act
Jeffmet3 raises to $4,600.25, and is all in
efrayzor has 15 seconds left to act
efrayzor has requested TIME
efrayzor folds
Uncalled bet of $4,400.25 returned to Jeffmet3
Jeffmet3 mucks
Jeffmet3 wins the pot ($829.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $830 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Kh 6d 3c As 5h]
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 (big blind) collected ($829.50), mucked
Seat 2: efrayzor (small blind) folded on the River

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

Definately for value

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

umm you're going for value. what was your motivation for c/r, surely you must know this?

i'd always lead the river, he usually has a hand that wants to see a cheap showdown like KQ/KJ that isn't going to bet the river, so you lose value vs those hands by checking.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

ok thanks.

then one more:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3197427405: Table Mare (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:17:57 ET - 2007/08/09
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 ($5,257.75)
Seat 2: efrayzor ($1,084.50)
Jeffmet3 posts the small blind of $5
efrayzor posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeffmet3 [Ad Qc]
Jeffmet3 raises to $30
efrayzor raises to $90
Jeffmet3 calls $60
*** FLOP *** [Td 3s 8h]
efrayzor bets $140
Jeffmet3 calls $140
*** TURN *** [Td 3s 8h] [4h]
efrayzor checks
Jeffmet3 bets $300
efrayzor calls $300
*** RIVER *** [Td 3s 8h 4h] [5s]
efrayzor checks
Jeffmet3 has 15 seconds left to act
Jeffmet3 bets $4,727.75, and is all in
efrayzor: yikes
efrayzor has 15 seconds left to act
efrayzor calls $554.50, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $4,173.25 returned to Jeffmet3
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jeffmet3 shows [Ad Qc] Ace Queen high
efrayzor shows [9c 9s] a pair of Nines
efrayzor wins the pot ($2,168.50) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,169 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td 3s 8h 4h 5s]
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 (small blind) showed [Ad Qc] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: efrayzor (big blind) showed [9c 9s] and won ($2,168.50) with a pair of Nines


I thought this was close but good. He called, but still.

To expand, yea he's getting good odds, but this is a bluff never, so how can he call? But, once again I guess I overestimated him, as there's no chance he was thinking that. [censored] me.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

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ok thanks.

then one more:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3197427405: Table Mare (heads up) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:17:57 ET - 2007/08/09
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 ($5,257.75)
Seat 2: efrayzor ($1,084.50)
Jeffmet3 posts the small blind of $5
efrayzor posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jeffmet3 [Ad Qc]
Jeffmet3 raises to $30
efrayzor raises to $90
Jeffmet3 calls $60
*** FLOP *** [Td 3s 8h]
efrayzor bets $140
Jeffmet3 calls $140
*** TURN *** [Td 3s 8h] [4h]
efrayzor checks
Jeffmet3 bets $300
efrayzor calls $300
*** RIVER *** [Td 3s 8h 4h] [5s]
efrayzor checks
Jeffmet3 has 15 seconds left to act
Jeffmet3 bets $4,727.75, and is all in
efrayzor: yikes
efrayzor has 15 seconds left to act
efrayzor calls $554.50, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $4,173.25 returned to Jeffmet3
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jeffmet3 shows [Ad Qc] Ace Queen high
efrayzor shows [9c 9s] a pair of Nines
efrayzor wins the pot ($2,168.50) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,169 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td 3s 8h 4h 5s]
Seat 1: Jeffmet3 (small blind) showed [Ad Qc] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: efrayzor (big blind) showed [9c 9s] and won ($2,168.50) with a pair of Nines


I thought this was close but good. He called, but still.

To expand, yea he's getting good odds, but this is a bluff never, so how can he call? But, once again I guess I overestimated him, as there's no chance he was thinking that. [censored] me.

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Meh, I don't like it really since the river doesn't change anything, so I wouldn't be expecting him to fold. Surely he must know you're very capable of floating this flop.

Re: Heads up flop a set,, now?
 

I guess it's player dependent, but if you're the villain in the hand, doesn't my hand look like a monster, and at worst something like J10s?

Calling the 3-bet and then flat calling the turn. I just committed almost 30% of effective stacks with calling. Then when checked to I bet turn and shove river. Yes, I'm shoving a half pot bet, but that can't be a bluff.

I don't really know what line can possibly look stronger than that.

Although I'm open to being wrong, I'm just curious if you can explain it, thanks.