2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

Villain is enyoj - seemingly a winner in these games. He usually takes a fairly agressive approach to these games in contrary to many of the other regs. We've tangled, but since the game is FR, and full of shorties, it hasn't been wild at all. I haven't given him any action to his preflop bets - especially out of position.

My question lies mostly in the fact that given that I bet the river, I would most probably be expected to be able to beat AK (right?), further that he probably has AK (right?), and lastly that I could not at any point expect him to fold AK (right?).

Most of you would probably find preflop and flop play fairly poorly played. I would however prefer if this part could be left out of the hand analysis and discussion, unless it has a central effect on the river (/turn?) discussion.

Thx for the responses.

***** Hand History for Game 6215504573 *****
$5,000 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 07, 04:16:07 ET 2007
Table Table 127484 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: karlos25 ( $1,221.68 USD )
Seat 2: tnemel3 ( $2,120 USD )
Seat 3: sprucedeuce1 ( $3,989 USD )
Seat 4: SICK_TILT ( $21,759 USD )
Seat 6: Norriback ( $6,121 USD )
Seat 7: c0pacetik ( $10,489 USD )
Seat 8: enyoj ( $8,625 USD )
Seat 10: Joeanne ( $4,975 USD )
Seat 5: aftershock16 ( $1,000 USD )
Seat 9: Eric_Dolphy ( $1,000 USD )
tnemel3 posts small blind [$25 USD].
sprucedeuce1 posts big blind [$50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SICK_TILT [ 8s 9s ]
SICK_TILT raises [$166 USD]
Norriback folds.
c0pacetik folds.
enyoj raises [$600 USD]
Joeanne folds.
karlos25 folds.
tnemel3 folds.
sprucedeuce1 folds.
SICK_TILT calls [$434 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
SICK_TILT checks.
enyoj bets [$800 USD]
SICK_TILT calls [$800 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
SICK_TILT checks.
enyoj checks.
** Dealing River ** [ A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
SICK_TILT bets [$1,999 USD]

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

If you were floating the flop, why did you check behind on the turn?

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

if you think he has AK on the river i think a cr makes him lay down more than a lead

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

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If you were floating the flop, why did you check behind on the turn?

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Because he's floating OOP. If you really think he has AK here I think a c/rai is more convincing, but you will look retarded if he checks behind. On a second thought, you'll probably looks pretty silly whatever you do here so does it really matter?

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

If I were him I would snap call you with AK

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

he will never fold an ace here and sometimes even call with worse here i think

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

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If I were him I would snap call you with AK

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Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

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If I were him I would snap call you with AK

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Would you call a c/rai with AK or AQ? how about with KK?

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

i dont get the he knows that i know bit...

none of those assumptions seem like assumptions i would make in either of your shoes... and enyoj is not folding ak here... nor would i.

Re: 2550, I know that he knows that I know (etc)..?
 

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if you think he has AK on the river i think a cr makes him lay down more than a lead

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agreed, he will snapcall AK as played. I don't think a cr here makes any sense though and he is smart enough to pick up on that and he'll pretty likely call that too given who he is and how he plays.