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recallme 08-07-2007 07:29 PM

How to go from here with my draws?
 
Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1200
UTG+1: $2082
Hero: $1257
Button: $313.25
SB: $1756.50
BB: $1000

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($80, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $150</font>.

Honestly i like thesespots, because i can represent the Flush if it hitsand my draw is disguised.
You like calling and raising turn if i hit one of my draws?

HonkDonk 08-07-2007 07:52 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
Do you have a read?
normaly you are dog, because villain has a K or FD. call and raise the completed draw is dangerous, becouse it could be villains draw.
For a answer you need 2 informations:
read of villain and the read of yourself.
If you are TAG(and Villain is Loose) play here agressiv, if you are LAG and Villain is a Rock - fold.

Sorry for my bad english.

jpsnow 08-07-2007 07:55 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Do you have a read?
normaly you are dog, because villain has a K or FD. call and raise the completed draw is dangerous, becouse it could be villains draw.
For a answer you need 2 informations:
read of villain and the read of yourself.
If you are TAG(and Villain is Loose) play here agressiv, if you are LAG and Villain is a Rock - fold.

Sorry for my bad english.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree.... It also helps to know whether he raises with draws. If not I like a call and represent either much better.

Jamougha 08-07-2007 07:59 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
I would like to know something about villain and the flow of he game. Honestly folding here isn't out of the question.

HonkDonk 08-07-2007 08:22 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
Honestly folding here isn't out of the question.

but only if you are thinking,
1. he will fold on turn/river about your play.
2. he is able to do everything
3. you will find a A or a T on the board.

O.K. there are 3 reasons, but 2 (or 3) are weak without a exakly read.

Now Hero can fold very cheap, if he go to the battle it could be very expesive. I think you need a reason (read) to do that.

But maybe your argumentation is better like my.

sorry for my bad english.

JLimbs 08-07-2007 09:17 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
You are getting 2.7-1 on the call and you have position. The stacks are deep enough that it makes sense to peel here. Plus there is always the chance that slows down and you can take the pot away even if you miss.

-Jerry

AAismyfriend 08-07-2007 09:19 PM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would like to know something about villain and the flow of he game. Honestly folding here isn't out of the question.

[/ QUOTE ]

recallme 08-08-2007 06:39 AM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
Obviously i called and turn was
! 8s !
He lead for 250. am i bluffing like 600 or 700?

True 08-08-2007 08:55 AM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
who is villain? you do realise a flush is a huge part of his range here?

The B 08-08-2007 09:11 AM

Re: How to go from here with my draws?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Obviously i called and turn was
! 8s !
He lead for 250. am i bluffing like 600 or 700?

[/ QUOTE ]


he's got top 2 ....dump it


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