TPTK OOP way too [censored] deep
 

I felt disgusted with my line afterwards:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $288.60
Hero (BB): $1,662.75
UTG: $626.10
MP: $1,521.55
CO: $424.30
BTN: $360.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is running at 27/9 w/ agfs 0.5/2.7/1.7 over 250 hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $12.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, MP calls $56.00, SB folds

Flop: ($154) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $110.00</font>, MP calls $110.00

Turn: ($374) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $200.00</font>, Hero calls $200.00

River: ($774) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $348.00</font>

Re: TPTK OOP way too [censored] deep
 

Sick spot, I think it's a fold though. His bet sizing is screaming strength and I don't know if he is capable of value betting worse or bluffing for less than half pot. This is AA/KK a ton IMO.

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I'm not in love with the preflop play vs. this guy being this deep. Someone convince me.

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I play it the same, the questionbal spots are preflop and river.
Preflop i think a 3bet is often profitbal but a read is good against 27/9 'cos thier opening standards can really differ.
River, depends on how he would play a missed flushdraw or some other draw. I would often talk me in that he can have the draw and call this river.

note that if he is as passive as he's aggresionfactor shows you can def fold the river

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The river is a fold without a doubt, he is either filled up or has AA/KK like 95% of the time here. I also don't think 3 betting here this deep vs a guy with such a tight opening range is going to be profitable whatsoever.

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The river is a fold without a doubt, he is either filled up or has AA/KK like 95% of the time here. I also don't think 3 betting here this deep vs a guy with such a tight opening range is going to be profitable whatsoever.

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Yeah the more I think about it the easier of a fold this is. I thought it was $600nl initially as well, so yeah I agree, pretty easy fold. And I also agree preflop is pretty meh, you're not far ahead of his opening range most likely and his calling range is likely crushing us. A SC or PP or something random seems like a better hand to have here, AQ gets into too many tricky bad spots like this.

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Really people aren't 3betting pf here? I feel like thats pretty exploitable.

Also, what are you doing, folding AQ pf? Or calling? Then what if you hit flop?

Mark

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I'd prefer raising closer to 60 pre. Three betting is fine though. I'd fire the turn again usually.

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If you are going to call a bet on the turn, you might as well just bet out. If he has nothing he probably folds. If he calls he is most likely on a draw. I also dont think he would want another card to come if he has a hand like JJ, because of straight and flush draws, so if you get raised you can just fold. What you are doing basically is finding out where you are the best way, because if you get raised or called you will have a much better idea of where you are, and only put more money in the pot if the situation is right.

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The draws missed, I don't think he'd just call the flop with 7x, and he especially wouldn't bet the turn with it IMO. I'd call this river. wouldn't he raise JQ or set on this flop? I think ur up against AQ or KQ personally and it's either a chop or ur a bit ahead; perhaps he's bluffing off with like KT or somethin I'm calling here personally wouldn't he 4bet u preflop with KK or AA as well? Especially vs a 27/9 im calling the riv