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bober2 08-06-2007 06:22 AM

QQ with KJX flop
 
Did i bet this ok, or should i be folding either pre-flop or an the flop bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($13.75)
CO ($9.95)
Button ($6.50)
SB ($9.95)
Hero ($21.95)
UTG ($10.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.8</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.20.

Flop: ($12.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $3.95.

Turn: ($0) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $20

Slayer 08-06-2007 06:52 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
I'm not sure... I think if you're going to commit to an all-in on the flop regardless of whether or not a king (or presumably an ace) is out there, you should just push preflop. I think I would have done that instead of calling the 3bet pf and letting a flop make you doubt your decision

Romanis 08-06-2007 07:01 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
I'd push preflop. But I guess this is AA/KK often enough to consider folding(any reads/stats/seen him 4-betting before?). After you called you're committed, you can't really fold anymore.

Go_BroKe 08-06-2007 07:05 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
it's readdepend, if you push/fold it preflop

Panic__NL 08-06-2007 08:25 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
read dependend offcourse, without a read fold preflop. His range mainly consist out of AA and KK with an occasional AK.
Lets say he does this with KK+ and AKs. you are a huge dog so fold.

wslee00 08-06-2007 10:54 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
fold or all-in pf - ure committed anyway if you call.

w/o a read - definitely fold.

InsideEdge 08-06-2007 11:08 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
push pf for sure.

I would never fold QQ pf at this level, just get them in.

hunt1897 08-06-2007 11:29 AM

Re: QQ with KJX flop
 
Only thing I see is you need to make decision pre-flop, when sb RR's, fold or push there. Very read dependent. When sb bets flop, he doesn't seem to be scared of much. Fold. People will tell you "you have odds, pot committed, trash like that" these statements simply are not true.

IMO.


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