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redCashion 08-05-2007 11:58 PM

1/2 Setting up a big hand - what to do when your table image is busted
 
I run 17/11/3ish and so will sometimes will take advantage of my table image and try to pull some moves postflop that I don't think my opponents think I will make.

So hand one is against JonnyCosmo, the most notable thing about him is that he shows down a ridiculous number of hands.. something like 42%. Ya, it's only over 400 hands but that's still really high. But he's been playing pretty standard this session as far as I can tell.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $286.80
Hero (BB): $202.00
UTG: $281.90
BTN: $36.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32.00</font>, SB calls $22.00

Turn: ($80) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($80) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $80.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Queens) and WON (+$38.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$40.00)

Hand #2 is a few hands later against a 35/18/3 type, I double barrel the guy because I know he just saw me raise the flop on a bluff, and then give up the turn. So I think if I double barrel he will be convinced I have a big hand and lay down something that is medium strength. I'm wrong, but catch a nice river.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $279.90
BB: $362.85
Hero (BTN): $199.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $38.00</font>, SB calls $26.00

Turn: ($94) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $68.00</font>, SB calls $68.00

River: ($230) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $230.00 ($1 Rake)

SB had 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes) and LOST (-$114.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Sevens) and WON (+$115.00)

So a few hands later, I get the dream situation given my table image.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $312.00
BB: $168.90
UTG: $56.25
BTN: $359.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, Hero calls $3.00, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $24.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $70.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $308.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls all-in for $28.25, BTN folds
Uncalled bet of $238.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($216.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($216.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $216.25 ($2 Rake)

UTG had T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$56.25)
Hero had 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fours) and WON (+$140.25)

I believe a push here is the obvious play because my image is horrible and I think I'll get looked up alot lighter than normal, and I would play a big draw this way. I also think in a sense it looks weaker than to c/c a $70 bet.

I also don't think villain can lay down a big draw even though he is somewhat deep given the money in the pot at this point. I wouldn't even be questioning the play, but he sent some guy in to call me a bad player for turning my cards face up (it looked like he'd had his chat privileges removed lawl) and that he folded KJ.

Leading out on the flop is alternate line I'll take alot, but given my previous penchant for raising on bluffs, I thought doing so again would be raise some suspicion.

Thoughts?

blah-blah-blah 08-06-2007 12:08 AM

Re: 1/2 Setting up a big hand - what to do when your table image is busted
 
seems fine. i might not double barrel hand two unless you know villian is paying attention to the fact that you gave up last time which most likely they aren't.

Bulletproof Monk 08-06-2007 12:16 AM

Re: 1/2 Setting up a big hand - what to do when your table image is bu
 
hmm its all good i guess....

i think the third hand i generally lead for like ~10. you got lucky that all 3 of them came to life.


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